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Nostradamouse

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#21 13 years ago
AeroflotteIs it ever something you like? Was there ever a time in history where you liked people bashing your people? I'll take a guess and say, "no." This isn't something new. People do and always will make cracks about other people. Get over it. The only thing you can do is ignore it.

The difference is self restraint on those matters, you don't see me rambling around americans or Canadians around here. While you pretty got the free card to annoy us. Should I also say that I got every rights to be offended by something you say because I believe you said one of the worst stupidity I ever heard about.

Oh, by the way. I just looked at the poll. It seems conservatives are for and liberals are against. Interesting.

You seem to forget one thing, the way I see it right now, it is mostly canadians that are against and americans that are for. Check the names more carefully next time.




HairySheep

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#22 13 years ago

2 canadians, 2 americans some guy from new zealand and the others dont have locations




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#23 13 years ago

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You seem to forget one thing, the way I see it right now, it is mostly canadians that are against and americans that are for. Check the names more carefully next time.

And both are from Quebec as well... how intresting.

Hahaha! Dream on, a USNA would DESTROY free healthcare in Canada, not bring it to the USA.

How can the USNA destroy something that is non-exsistant? There is no such thing as free healthcare, get that through your head.




Aeroflot

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#24 13 years ago
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Should we pretend that we are mature, or should we acknowledge that we'll never be in full control of ourselves?

Go ahead and be offended. I honestly think you don't care at all.

You seem to forget one thing, the way I see it right now, it is mostly canadians that are against and americans that are for. Check the names more carefully next time.

Lets see. We got two people from Canada, two from the US, and one from New Zealand. It seems to me that it is only a coincidence that most of the conservatives are American.




Komrad_B

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#25 13 years ago
AfterburnerHow can the USNA destroy something that is non-exsistant? There is no such thing as free healthcare, get that through your head.

With a hint of perspicacity, you would have known I was talking about public healthcare . I'm well aware that I pay taxes :rolleyes:




masked_marsoe Advanced Member

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#26 13 years ago

You have to ask, what would Canada gain from this?

It goes from one of the most respected nations in the world to one of the least. It looses its standard of living, as much cheaper workers take jobs from Canadians, and services are sold off or shut down. Minority freedoms get stripped away. It gets drawn into TWAT, where previously it was free from that. Democracy gets diluted, and the Canadians lose their head of state for a foriegn president.

On the other hand, they do get lower taxes!

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#27 13 years ago

The USA and Canada are too different countries to form a single nation and unequal in terms of population and economic, political & military might, not to mention that it would mostly benefit just the USA. Some sort of economic, military & political alliance could work out like Afterburner suggested, although not in a scale of system like EU.

P.S. There's already an active topic about healthcare in the Pub.




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#28 13 years ago
Emperor Norton IActually a majority of Americans support Federalized healthcare and most other things the candians already have

Sure would love to know where you get that idea.

Actually, it does make sense. They see free healthcare as freedom from doctors bills and all that. What most of them do not realize is that their taxes will skyrocket because of it. So then the next election year everyone will whine about how high their taxes are now.




Emperor Norton I

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#29 13 years ago

taxes will go up,thats a given but the cost for just the paper work in our system of HMOs,etc. is high,if we go to federalized healthcare the taxes will increase but it will be cheaper in the long run because the cost of paper work and the buracracy will drop dramatically (as we can see with the elderlys use of social security and government help programs it will drop to something like 2% while our programs cost around more than 20 times that)

please remember that this thread covers things besides universal healthcare so dont 100% focus on that. Theres various issue that can be covered and argued in a Union of the US and Canada




Komrad_B

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#30 13 years ago

taxes will go up,thats a given but the cost for just the paper work in our system of HMOs,etc. is high,if we go to federalized healthcare the taxes will increase but it will be cheaper in the long run because the cost of paper work and the buracracy will drop dramatically (as we can see with the elderlys use of social security and government help programs it will drop to something like 2% while our programs cost around more than 20 times that)

please remember that this thread covers things besides universal healthcare so dont 100% focus on that. Theres various issue that can be covered and argued in a Union of the US and Canada

Norton, remember that the USA won't become like Canada, it will be the other way round... 300 00 000 American citizens > 33 000 000 Canadian citizens, majority rules.

As for healthcare, theres tons of bureaucracy in a public healthcare system, tons. Money is saved mostly because public healthcare does not seek ridiculous amounts of profit$ with the health of man.

Canada and USA are already very allied. Militarily, there is NORAD and of course NATO. Most of the Canadian "arsenal" is of US origins, and both country's arms industry is very tied. Economically, there is NAFTA (North American Free Trade), and it is of course worth mentionning that Canada is the USA's biggest trade partner, and that the USA is Canada's biggest trade partner also. It is realistic to say that the economies of both countries are almost completely integrated into each other.

I'd say that, except the European Union, Canada and the USA are already the closest countries in the world. The current situation is good enough for BOTH countries. I doubt however that Canada surrendering its sovereignty to the USA (I'd bet 1000$ the capital of the union would be Washington) would be a good thing for the specific reasons that it won't be a good thing for Canadians.