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#1 13 years ago

should the u.s get in volved?


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#2 13 years ago

As in a Military intervention? No.

But the US and the EU and Russia should use economic and political methods to force a cease fire at least.


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#3 13 years ago


The US is already "involved" in the middle east. If you mean Israil and Hezbolah, Israil is more than capable of defending itself without ANY help. And the US has enough on it's plate already.


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#4 13 years ago

It depends, they should stay out as long as Israel isnt on the verge of destruction, which is very unlikely to happen.


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#5 13 years ago

If serious stuff starts to go down, and Israel needs or asks for our direct support, I think we should be there for them. But right now, no. They are more than capable of handling this themselves, and we're kinda busy right now too.


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#6 13 years ago

Not right now I don't think so. But if other countries like Iran and Syrai start getting involved I think it wouldn't be a terrible idea to have a millitary plan ready to help Isreal if they need it(I acualyl doubt they would)

Right now though I think unless Isreal misses a target on the border with Syria and it hits Syria instead of Lebanon then this will stay as just a war between Isreal and Lebanon.

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#7 13 years ago

depends on future events


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#8 13 years ago

If this conflict between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah escalates to involve Syria I can see other nations in the Middle East becoming involved. Iran, as we know, is no fan of Israel, and I dread to think what would happen if things escalated into an Arab coalition against Israel. I'm sure that right now, Iran is supporting the two terrorist groups, as is Syria and sympathetic Lebanese. As attack on Syria would drag them into this, and as a result Iran could become more overtly involved. In that situation I think the U.S. would have to act; further disrupting the situation in The Gulf.


Here is an interesting article on the situation...

Israel is embroiled in a multiple front conflict with terror groups that is reverberating throughout the Middle East.

The conflict between Israel and Islamist militants that began in the Gaza Strip late last month leaped northward just days ago to Lebanon. Two independent terror groups - - Hamas and Hezbollah - - are now fighting Israel on separate fronts.

In both cases, conflict began with the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. And in both cases, Israel's response has been strong. The pressing question now, most analysts say, is whether the spreading conflict can be contained and eventually quelled, or whether it will engulf more of the volatile Middle East.

Hamas and Hezbollah Battle Israel

With the July 12th kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah along the Israeli border with Lebanon, some observers questioned whether that action was coordinated with the first kidnapping on June 25th at a Gaza border checkpoint.

Long-time U.S. diplomat Philip Wilcox, now the President of the Foundation for Middle East Peace in Washington, says it more likely was a matter of opportunity than deliberate planning.

"It's logical that Hamas and Hezbollah, which both have unresolved territorial conflicts with the Israelis, that Hezbollah has used Israel's distress in Gaza to create another military front on the [Israeli -] Lebanon border," says Wilcox.

Hamas was formed in 1987 during an uprising by Palestinians against Israeli occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Hezbollah was formed in 1982 in response to Israel's assault on and occupation of southern Lebanon. Since then, both terror groups have repeatedly attacked Israel and refused to recognize it as a legitimate state.

In recent times, both Hamas and Hezbollah have entered politics as a means of influencing governments and their policies. Hezbollah has won seats in Lebanon's parliament and, in January, Hamas became the majority party in the Palestinian parliament.

The kidnapping of an Israeli soldier on June 25th triggered Israel's incursion into Gaza against Hamas. But Henry Siegman at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York says that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's campaign against Hamas began with the Palestinian elections in January.

Olmert's Strategy

"The declared policy of the Olmert government was to undermine the Hamas [Palestinian] government. And the assumption, apparently, was that if you punish the Palestinian people in Gaza sufficiently, they will withdraw their support for Hamas. And Hamas will come crashing down," says Siegman.

The Israeli pressure campaign against Hamas began with the withholding of tax revenues that fund the Palestinian government. In June, after the first kidnapping, Israel stepped up the pressure with its military operations in Gaza, where it knocked out a power plant that provides much of that area's electricity. The power outage also affected Gaza's water supply. The Israeli incursion has created other problems in Gaza such as food and fuel shortages.

Saleh Sakka, the Gaza representative for the humanitarian aid group American Near East Refugee Aid, says Israel's strategy has been successful to some degree, but at the same time, it has also increased Palestinian outrage.

"People are saying it looks like they're paying the price for voting for Hamas in the January elections. And because of that, people have started to think, 'Was that a good choice?' If they knew this result [i.e., the damage caused by Israel's incursion into Gaza] they wouldn't have given Hamas their support. But there are other people who feel very frustrated about being punished and would give Hamas the same support if the elections were held again," says Sakka.

Ehud Olmert

Many analysts say there is another reason why the Israeli operations in Gaza and Lebanon have been so strong. One of them is David Makovsky, with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who says Prime Minister Olmert has something crucial to prove to his constituents.

"Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, feels that he's the new guy on the block. And here's Hamas and Hezbollah testing him. And he wants to demonstrate to a skeptical Israeli public that he's worthy of being Ariel Sharon's successor," says Makovsky.

As the Gaza operation continues, Hezbollah's kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers added a multinational dimension to the conflict. Israel has launched a number of airstrikes against targets in Lebanon, including Beirut's airport and buildings connected to Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah.

Hezbollah and Iran

Henry Siegman at the Council on Foreign Relations says Hezbollah clearly is assisted by regional states hostile to Israel. "Of course, there are other forces here - - particularly Iran. There has been a suggestion that Syria is implicated as well. Both Iran and Syria have made it possible for Hezbollah to arm itself and to establish those installations they have along the border [between Lebanon and Israel]," says Siegman.


Many analysts describe Hezbollah as a proxy for Iran. And the United States and several other nations have warned Iran and Syria to stay out of Israel's conflict with Hezbollah and Hamas, saying there would be serious consequences for assisting the two terror groups.

Amid the smoke and rubble of this conflict is another concern - - whether there will be something to salvage in the decades-old attempt to forge peace between Israel and its neighbors.

Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies says past efforts, including the "Roadmap for Peace," are being discarded as Israel determines its own course of action.

"The peace process we followed is dead. This idea that the Arabs would pressure the Americans, that the Americans would [then] pressure the Israelis [and] the Israelis would make concessions to the Palestinians - - that long, tortured diplomacy is over. It's [now] completely the [Israeli] unilateral way rather than the old ways of multilateral diplomacy," says Ajami.

The conflict between Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah is not over. And the violence is reverberating throughout the Middle East. Many diplomats and analysts warn that additional actions by any of the warring parties could create a broader conflict throughout the region.

This is a particularly trying time for Olmert. He has no military background, unlike his predecessors and his strategy/actions will be picked apart at every turn. I think there are many who wait for this civilian man to screw up somewhere along the lines.


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#9 13 years ago

Syria is the key to the crisis right now. Israel won't attack deep into Lebanon for fear that Syria will attack its flanks. Either Israel gets assurances from Syria that it won't attack, or it preemptively attacks Syria. Now if I was Israel I wouldn't go attacking Syria without any help. Doing so might get Iran involved and that is not what the US wants. The US won't attack Syria either, because it doesn't have enough troops in the region. So, no, I think the US ought to stay out of this, unless something happens. Israel is looking to a cease fire with Lebanon right now anyways, so this might end soon.


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#10 13 years ago

Iran is already involved.