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#1 13 years ago

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=2&u=/ap/20050326/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_india_pakistan

U.S. to Sell Jets to Pakistan; India Upset

48 minutes ago By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration rewarded Pakistan, an improbable ally in the war on terrorism, with a promise Friday that it could buy sophisticated U.S.-built F-16 warplanes. Pakistan's nuclear rival, India, immediately complained the sale would threaten its security.

The sales would represent a shift in policy after years of sanctions and harsh rhetoric from Washington over Pakistan's nuclear ambitions and what U.S. administrations have seen as tolerance for Islamic extremism. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, however, Pakistan has become an important partner in hunting suspected terrorists and cracking down on anti-American extremists.

Mindful of the fragile balance of power in South Asia, the administration also gave a green light to India for its own purchase of sophisticated weapons.

State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said the administration sent reports to Congress on Friday describing proposals to sell armaments to both Pakistan and India. Congress must sign off on the sensitive technology export.

Ereli said, "We are looking to improve security and improve prosperity and improve development of the entire region as a whole."

"Part of that is a decision to begin negotiations with the Pakistani government and Congress to sell F-16s to Pakistan and to respond favorably to a request for information from India for the possible sale of multi-role combat aircraft," he said.

U.S. defense companies are now "free to talk to India about what they have to offer, and it will be up to India to decide what it wants," to buy, Ereli said.

The move allows Pakistan to finally move ahead on planned purchases of two dozen F-16s dating to the 1980s, before the United States blocked the sale because of Pakistan's increasingly obvious drive to build nuclear weapons.

There is no limit on future sales to Pakistan, a State Department official said on condition of anonymity.

Pakistan's information minister, Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, called the decision a "good gesture by the United States" and said the transaction would ease anti-American sentiment in the Islamic nation.

"This will fulfill our defense requirements," he said. "We had been lagging behind (India) in conventional weapons. This will improve the situation."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said she discussed sales of F-16s to both Pakistan and India during back-to-back visits to those countries earlier this month. Rice chose not to announce the Pakistan decision on that trip in part to avoid angering India.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since the former British colony was partitioned in 1947 into predominantly Hindu and predominantly Muslim states.

President Bush (news - web sites) tried to head off Indian worries with an early morning phone call to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Calling from his ranch in Crawford, Texas, Bush told Singh that the administration was moving ahead with the sale, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.

At the same time, Bush told Singh that the United States was responding to India's request for information on its own future warplane purchases, Perino said.

The United States reassured India that it had the administration's blessing to buy F-16s, or perhaps F-18s. India is contemplating a multibillion dollar purchase of fighter planes, including U.S.-built or foreign-made aircraft.

The United States has sold a variety of weaponry to India since lifting a ban on arms sales three years ago that had been imposed after an Indian nuclear test. Last year, in a move seen as a coup for India, the administration gave the go-ahead for Lockheed Martin to give India information for prospective sales of F-16s.

Singh told Bush that sales to Pakistan would endanger security in the region, and expressed "great disappointment" over the decision, Sanjaya Baru, the prime minister's spokesman said.

New Delhi is worried that arming Pakistan with the advanced jet fighters would tilt the military balance in the region and could adversely affect peace talks between India and Pakistan.

The F-16 sale to Pakistan is meant to remove a persistent irritant in U.S.-Pakistani relations. Pakistan struck a deal with the United States to buy the nuclear-capable F-16 fighter jets 15 years ago, but the agreement was scrapped in the 1990s when Washington imposed sanctions.

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#2 13 years ago

:rofl: Hypocrits! so, the U.S. is selling F-16 to the Pakistanis? Isn't that where some terrorists are? Why should we risk our safety by sending our aircraft into the hands of untrustworthy people...in a country that has people that could hijack the planes? I know it says they are our allies, but i don't believe all of that...they help somewhat. As for India, well this definetly complicates things...we have sided with pakistan apparently...but now the tensions rise and india gets upset and builds their own aircraft...joyous.




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#3 13 years ago
Phoenixso, the U.S. is selling F-16 to the Pakistanis? Isn't that where some terrorists are? Why should we risk our safety by sending our aircraft into the hands of untrustworthy people...

I guess its a sign of trust...plus F-16's are not as up to date as other aircraft.

And we really dont have to worry about them being used against us, because Pakistan already has an air force and it hasnt been used against us...

And F-16's are quite difficult to fly.




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#4 13 years ago

i dont know what's the fuss , there isnt going to be a war anytime soon , our airforce is twice as big as them we have the israeli radar and su-30's and more , what'll a dozen f-16's do?




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#5 13 years ago

our airforce is 5 times theirs at least




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#6 13 years ago

Before Pakistan would ever attack us they would attack India first. They hate India more than they hate the US.

These F-16's are a reward to Pakistan for their efforts to hunt terrorists and their support of the US in its war on terrorists.

Do I approve of the sale? NO. The only reason Pakistan wasnt Allied to the Taliban was President Musharraf's ties with Washington. As soon as he dies or leaves office for whatever that entire country will descend into Islamic fundamentalism and they will make the Taliban look mellow.

I think the US should be buddying up with the Indians. India wants friends in teh region. Pakistan is their mortal enemy and China and Pakistan are becoming friends so India feels nervous.




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#7 13 years ago
Anlushac11I think the US should be buddying up with the Indians. India wants friends in teh region.

I agree 100%. Selling aircraft to Iran isn't anything new. In the past we've sold them AH-1 Cobras, F-14 Tomcats, and F-4 Phantoms to name a few. Selling them F-16s isn't going to make a bit of difference militarily, politically though, it may/may not strengthen ties with Iran (personally, I doubt it) and almost certainly will help weaken our ties with India. Why do I get that sinking feeling that once again we [United States] are making a mistake in regards to the Middle East?




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#8 13 years ago

pakistan and china are friends for ages , all of their nuclear technology and missiles were developed using chineese technology




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#9 13 years ago

The US owes the Pakistani's the F-16's, 28 were embargoed during the 1980's, which now serve in the USAF and USN with Agressor squadrons. Anyway India has enough Su-30MKI's, MiG-29's and Mirage 2000H's to deal with any threat from Pakistan. India is ordering 60 Mig-29K's to replace the INS's Sea Harrier FRS.Mk.51's.

The US has a History of selling Hi-tech weaponry to unstable regimes, like the sale of 79 F-14A Tomcats to the IIAF (of 80 ordered) along with over 150 AIM-54A Phoenix AAM's, both were compromised following the fall of the Shah, and undoubtably Soviet technicians got their hands on them.




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#10 13 years ago

silian

The US has a History of selling Hi-tech weaponry to unstable regimes, like the sale of 79 F-14A Tomcats to the IIAF (of 80 ordered) along with over 150 AIM-54A Phoenix AAM's, both were compromised following the fall of the Shah, and undoubtably Soviet technicians got their hands on them.

those planes were eventually sabotaged before they could be used though :) i dont see what all the fuss is about... the F-16s aren't all that great anymore... with the F-22s and JSF, they're getting outdated pretty fast