Victims of Communism Memorial 78 replies

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WarHawk109

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#1 13 years ago

"The fall of the Communist empire," said Czech President Vaclav Havel, "was an event on the same scale of importance as the fall of the Roman Empire."

And yet in Washington, D.C.--the city of memorials--there is no monument marking this epic event. And there is no memorial to the many millions who died under communist tyranny. Until now.

Under Public Law 103-199, our Foundation is authorized to design, construct and maintain an international Memorial to the more than 100 million victims of communism. In April 2005, the National Capital Planning Commission formally approved a site for our Memorial at the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., New Jersey Avenue, N.W., and G Street, N.W. It is across from the Georgetown University Law Center and only two blocks from Union Station and the Metro.

There is a clear view of the U.S. Capitol, topped by the famous Statue of Freedom. An unobstructed view of the Capitol was a top priority because at the heart of our Memorial is a 10-foot bronze replica of the "Democracy" statue erected by Chinese students in Tiananmen Square in 1989 and based on our own Statue of Liberty.

On September 15, the Commission of Fine Arts approved our design, subject to consultation with its staff, a formality. We will again go before the National Capital Planning Commission in October, this time for design approval. Barring unforeseen complications, we should be able to break ground for our Memorial early in 2006 and have our dedication ceremony in the fall of 2006.

http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/

'bout time if you ask me.




MR.X`

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#2 13 years ago

Great idea, I look foreward to seeing what the designers come up with! Watch Nesh come in here now and try to flame us...




Gift

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#3 13 years ago

About time yes, I wonder what they are going to make of it.




Nederbörd

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#4 13 years ago

Yupp, about time. Poor Nesh, he's not going to be happy. :lol: The poor people who died during communism... wait I can't call it communism. I would call it totalitarian rule in the Soviet Union should be remembered. I can't call any nation here communistic. The leaders ALWAYS abuse their power in the so called ''communistic'' countries that it more looks like a totalitarian state. However it's not completely extinct. Remember Alexander Lukashenko and Belarus?




WarHawk109

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#5 13 years ago

Communism is by nature totalitarian. Remember the dictatorship of the proletariat?




SpiderGoat

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#6 13 years ago

So a dictatorship is by nature totalitarian? What a strange idea.




WarHawk109

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#7 13 years ago
Totalitarianism is a typology employed by political scientists to describe modern regimes in which the state regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior. Totalitarian regimes mobilize entire populations in support of the state and a political ideology, and do not tolerate activities by individuals or groups such as labor unions, churches and political parties that are not directed toward the state's goals. They maintain themselves in power by means of secret police, propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, and widespread use of terror tactics. Critics of the concept contend that the term lacks explanatory power. They argue that governments which are often classified as totalitarian may not be as monolithic as they appear from the outside, since they may hide a political process in which several groups, such as the army, political leaders, industrialists, and others, compete for power and influence.

Seems so to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarian




MR.X`

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#8 13 years ago
SpiderGoatSo a dictatorship is by nature totalitarian? What a strange idea.

:wtf:

Turn of the Rastafarian regge music, put down the blunt, and pick up a book. In the words of my generation "no duh".




SpiderGoat

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#9 13 years ago
USMA2010:wtf: Turn of the Rastafarian regge music, put down the blunt, and pick up a book. In the words of my generation "no duh".

I am now reading Hobsbawn and I don't even know what 'Rastafarian regge music' is. Look at the post I quote.

Communism is by nature totalitarian. Remember the dictatorship of the proletariat?

Warhawk says (inspired by Marx) that communism = dictatorship of the proletariat, and concludes that it is by nature totalitarian.

*Sigh* Ze hebben ogen, maar ze zien niet.

Seems so to me.

That didn't prove dictatorships are per definition totalitarian - which they aren't, nor did it prove that communism is totalitarian (though I'm not denying it did become that under Stalin and Mao).




Mihail VIP Member

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#10 13 years ago

I guess naming the victims of capitalism was too hard for them, and too large on scale to even try.