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AzH

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#1 12 years ago

Last year I reported on the government proposal to [COLOR="Red"]ban violent internet porn[/COLOR] and I can now confirm that the silly fucks went ahead with it.

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A mother whose daughter died at the hands of a man obsessed with violent internet porn has won her fight for a ban on possessing such images.

The government has announced plans to make the possession of violent porn punishable by three years in jail.

It follows a campaign by Berkshire woman Liz Longhurst whose daughter Jane, a Brighton schoolteacher, was strangled by Graham Coutts.

Mrs Longhurst’s campaign was backed by MPs and a 50,000-signature petition.

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In November last year the petition won cross-party support when it was presented to the House of Commons and was backed publicly by the solicitor general, Harriet Harman MP.

Since her daughter’s death Mrs Longhurst, 74, from Reading, has fought a long campaign to ban the possession of images of sexual violence.

Mrs Longhurst said: “My daughter Sue and myself are very pleased that after 30 months of intensive campaigning we have persuaded the government to take action against these horrific internet sites, which can have such a corrupting influence and glorify extreme sexual violence.”

Jane Longhurst, 31, was found dead on Wiggonholt Common, near Pulborough, West Sussex, on 19 April 2003.

She had been strangled with a pair of tights and her body kept in storage for weeks before it was found.

In 2004, musician Coutts, 36, of Waterloo Street, Hove, West Sussex, was jailed for life for her murder but on appeal the minimum term he was ordered to serve was reduced from 30 to 26 years.

Trial jurors had been told of his obsession with strangulation and how he looked at internet sites connected with the fetish.

It is already a crime to make or publish such images but proposed legislation will outlaw possession of images such as “material featuring violence that is, or appears to be, life-threatening or is likely to result in serious and disabling injury”.

Home Office Minister Vernon Coaker MP said: “Such material has no place in our society but the advent of the internet has meant that this material is more easily available and means existing controls are being by-passed - we must move to tackle this.”

Mrs Longhurst said legislation, which would apply to all websites, would mean her daughter’s death had not been “entirely in vain”.

Reading West MP Martin Salter, who backed the campaign, said: “This campaign has taken a huge amount of time and effort but it has struck a chord right across the country.

The move by the government would close a legal loophole.

“It is great news that the Government has not only listened but has responded to calls to outlaw access to sickening internet images, which can so easily send vulnerable people over the edge.”

The new law will not target those who accidentally come into contact with obscene pornography or affect mainstream entertainment industry working within current obscenity laws.

But the proposed legislation has drawn opposition from anti-censorship groups and organisations who represent people involved in sadomasochist activities.

Shaun Gabb, director of the anti-censorship organisation the Libertarian Alliance, said: “If you are criminalising possession then you are giving police inquisitorial powers to come into your house and see what you’ve got, now we didn’t have this in the past.”

This year five Law Lords sent Coutts’ case back to the Court of Appeal to “invite that court to quash the conviction”.

It was argued that jurors in the original trial should have been offered the option of manslaughter as well as a murder verdict.

I feel for the mother of the victim. It must be terrible to know that your daughter was killed by a pervert after being used as a piece of meat to fulfil someone’s sexual fantasies, but this ban is a stupid over-reation to a freak incident by the Nanny State. Where does it end? There have been a spate of ‘copy-cat crimes’ throughout history. The Manson family left lyrics from the Beatles ‘White Album’ scrawled in their victims blood. Should the Beatles be banned? In 1984 [COLOR="Red"]the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez killed 18 people[/COLOR], taking his queue from ‘Highway to Hell’. Do we ban AC/DC? More recently, [COLOR="Red"]Wolfgang Priklopil kept Natascha Kampusch[/COLOR] locked in an underground cell for eight years. His methods certainly seem to have been lifted straight out of John Fowles’ book, ‘Collector’. Just like Fowles’ character Frederick Clegg, Priklopil seized his victim with a van and kept her in total seclusion in a secret subterranean lair, which puts the writer in the frame not only for helping sickos develop unpleasant ideas but also for giving them precise instructions on carrying them out. Do we ban literature? In June 2003 Devin Moore, an 18-year-old who played Grand Theft Auto day and night, shot three policemen then told the officer who arrested him, “Life is like a video game.” Do we ban games? Hmm? In 1994 [COLOR="Red"]the makers of ‘Natural Born Killers’[/COLOR] were in a Louisiana Court to defend themselves against dozens of copy-cat incidents including seven murders.

Everywhere in popular culture there are references to killing, brutalising, rape, murder, beatings, kidnap. How long before the Government decides we’re not capable of understanding the difference between right and wrong and takes these immoral publications out of our lives?

It has to stop. The Government needs to understand that it isn’t the games, the books, the violent porn internet sites that kill people. People kill people. We live in a society that needs a reality check.




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#2 12 years ago

This is pretty sad. Does this mean they will arrest and charge actors who practice theater involving mock murders and sex? I totally agree with you on this, it's a joke to ban possessing violent sexual images. Moral legislation is happening much to frequently in the states. Makes you wonder what will be illegal next?

I think this is a reach of desperation. The mother and perhaps others, identified with the most peculiar and disgusting routine this killer had, and focused on it like that was his sole source of degradation and corruption.

The actions this man did were “defined” and labeled to something tangible and material on purpose. By connecting his actions to anything, truly or falsely, his conduct and behavior becomes safe and explainable. With out that "understanding", then this behavior is completely random and with out purpose, and that could mean anyone and everyone is a potential target, and no one wants to face that realization. They want to say this is what he did, and that’s why he did that, and this fed his urges, and whatever else so they can feel safer.

I'd bet this guy with or with out the internet would have done something like this. Blaming violent porn or using it as an explanation or excuse is a cop out in my eyes.




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#3 12 years ago

AzHLast year I reported on the government proposal to [COLOR=Red]ban violent internet porn[/COLOR] and I can now confirm that the silly fucks went ahead with it.

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I feel for the mother of the victim. It must be terrible to know that your daughter was killed by a pervert after being used as a piece of meat to fulfil someone’s sexual fantasies, but this ban is a stupid over-reation to a freak incident by the Nanny State. Where does it end? There have been a spate of ‘copy-cat crimes’ throughout history. The Manson family left lyrics from the Beatles ‘White Album’ scrawled in their victims blood. Should the Beatles be banned? In 1984 [COLOR=Red]the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez killed 18 people[/COLOR], taking his queue from ‘Highway to Hell’. Do we ban AC/DC? More recently, [COLOR=Red]Wolfgang Priklopil kept Natascha Kampusch[/COLOR] locked in an underground cell for eight years. His methods certainly seem to have been lifted straight out of John Fowles’ book, ‘Collector’. Just like Fowles’ character Frederick Clegg, Priklopil seized his victim with a van and kept her in total seclusion in a secret subterranean lair, which puts the writer in the frame not only for helping sickos develop unpleasant ideas but also for giving them precise instructions on carrying them out. Do we ban literature? In June 2003 Devin Moore, an 18-year-old who played Grand Theft Auto day and night, shot three policemen then told the officer who arrested him, “Life is like a video game.” Do we ban games? Hmm? In 1994 [COLOR=Red]the makers of ‘Natural Born Killers’[/COLOR] were in a Louisiana Court to defend themselves against dozens of copy-cat incidents including seven murders.

Everywhere in popular culture there are references to killing, brutalising, rape, murder, beatings, kidnap. How long before the Government decides we’re not capable of understanding the difference between right and wrong and takes these immoral publications out of our lives?

It has to stop. The Government needs to understand that it isn’t the games, the books, the violent porn internet sites that kill people. People kill people. We live in a society that needs a reality check.

I agree with you 100%, people are using the media as escape goat, trying to cover up mistakes made at home, one example of this is when they people blamed television for the cause of today’s mass anti social behavior. An experiment took place into the effects of violent TV, an island where TV wasn’t available was given access to TV, and so by the assumptions of the paranoid parents these inhabitances would imitate the TV. The experiment showed that there was no change in behavior of the children. This shows that the media is not to blame solely for the actions of people, and that the upbringing of those who commit these acts needs to be considered. This banning of violent porn is the start of the banning of other types of media.




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#4 12 years ago

I noticed in the recent charges brought against alleged muslim terrorists in the UK, that one was charged with possession of information useful to terrorist purposes. I think he had a copy of the terrorist cookbook, an old document that has been on the net for years. So now it seems mere possesion of information means that you will use that information to committ a crime? I have books on the hollocuast and the SS. Does that mean I am planning to exterminate jews in my backyard? I also have a book on chinese cookery, does not mean I intend to cook anything. The UK government has achieved it aim in making my country into a neo-marxist police state, where the freedom of the people to discuss issues or have access too, or even have in there possesion information that the goverment deems "undesirable" is restricted. We have never ever had such a goverment that inteferes with the public's life in such a manner. The most worrying thing is that since people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions, then the state will. No one objects??

Time for a revolution!!!!!!




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#5 12 years ago

People kill people that's correct. Look a little deeper... no, deeper. As someone mentioned, its about the upbringing and social surroundings the child is brought up in. When a baby is born, they're like carbon copies of each other (unless in the family tree there is some kind of genetic defects). From that point on its all about how they're brought up that decides where there gonna end up in life.

Its not fair on the people that enjoy the materials, that are used (or result in) antisocial behavior. What pulls the trigger? We do. If you don't like the idea of guns, tough. Don't like porn? Tough! As I said, look deeper, start at the beginning... us.


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#6 12 years ago

This just shows how weak the government actually is - they will feel pressured, and rush through a piece of legislation which is absolutly uneeded, such as the Dangerous Animals act a few years ago.

More legislation = less civil liberties.

It starts off with violent porn, then its hardcore porn, then softcore, then all nudity banned etc etc.




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#7 12 years ago

Now this is just silly, to put it in the lighest terms possible. To be honest, anyone who gets their rocks off to a porno of a guy raping a girl should probably be shot on the spot. But that's in a perfect world. Yeah, we have some fucked up people, but banning the stuff is like saying that's what causes it.

Do guns commit murders? No, people do.

Do pens write racist garbage? No, people do.

Does violent porn rape innocent people? No, people do.




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#8 12 years ago

Welcome to the slippery slope, gentlemen. In thirty years time there may be no internet at all.




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#9 12 years ago

I'm sorry, but that simply isn't going to happen. Despite all of the stupidity there is out there, intelligence always prevails.

It's common sense.




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#10 12 years ago

The problem as I see it is not the violence in Society.

Its the failure of society to hold people accountable for their actions. Sure I can watch a video game and the go out and shoot somoene. Does that make the video game responsible? I am a grown adult who was taught the difference between right and wrong and that if I commit a wrong act there will be a repercussion and accountability.

Todays criminal knows that they can probably get off on a lesser charge or escape a death penalty altogether by not placing the blame on the person who commited the crime but on anyone else but them.