Was Opening Relations with China a good thing? 20 replies

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Emperor Norton I

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#1 10 years ago

As we all know, in the past decades China has become a world power and has come to the world stage, which has offered benefits and problems in our modern world. Was the US having opened relations with the People's Republic of China in the 1970's a good thing overall? (economically, politically, morally, etc.) (I didn't know whether to post this in the pub since it does pertain majorly to the modern world, or historical sub forum since it does feature a past event. I would understand a movement)




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#2 10 years ago

I think it is a good thing. I may be called crazy for this, but I think the closer we get to world peace, the quicker we can advance our technology and explore deeper and deeper into space.




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#3 10 years ago

I think it was good, but we gave too much industry to China and should have gone about that differently.




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#4 10 years ago

Yeah sure, nothing like hugely increasing Chinas economy at the expense of our own. Im not particularly pleased with Chinas happy history of outright stealing IP and various technologies just to turn around and either sell it abroad or re-engineer it to threaten my own country. Explore space together? The last thing China did involving space was to shoot down US satellites. Using missile technology 'loaned' to them during the Clinton administration. But hey, least they arent putting cyanide in all the various products we buy from them...oh wait.




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#5 10 years ago

I think it was good. Maybe better globally in the long run. I think they are progressing morally/politically to be more capitalistic and more freedoms. Only time will tell, china isnt really my area of expertise :(




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#6 10 years ago

Absolutely not. All of the regulated countries around the world are losing out thanks to China being able to build up without having to put up with the same laws our on-shores have to.

What has been the result?

Our workers getting laid off thanks to cheaper outsourcing, and Chinese workers and civilians dying in the thousands thanks to pollution. As long as the money keeps flowing our government doesn't care. Disgusting.




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#7 10 years ago
Our workers getting laid off thanks to cheaper outsourcing, and Chinese workers and civilians dying in the thousands thanks to pollution. As long as the money keeps flowing our government doesn't care. Disgusting.

that the companies decision not the governments. Talk to the greedy CEO's




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#8 10 years ago

China gets to arse rape our economies, it was a fucking stupid idea.




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#9 10 years ago

It was good for trade, industry, etc. etc. bad for the common people of China and the future common people of America.




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#10 10 years ago

its a short term boon. Whats good for trade and industry is long term sustainability. You produce a product and pay your workers so that they have money to buy your products and in effect keep a perpetual cycle of earning and spending in effect. Thanks to Chinas huge abused labor force, Company A, in the US, outsources to Bejing, lays off its workers and gets to sell its product for the same fee but make higher profit not having to pay for quality labor. Great, until everyone else does it and your economy nose dives because nobody in the US has jobs to buy your shiat. The wealthy arent going to bail you out because they arent the guys buying shiat with 'made in china' stamped on it. Corporations are bankrupting themselves but itll take a decade or 2 before they realize it.

What happens next is their stock nose dives and they are forced to sell themselves to remain viable. Guess who buys their company? the Chinese firm they were sucking up to a decade earlier except now, all the American owners get fired so that Chinese leadership can be installed and so falls a corporation. More or less condensed but thats rather whats been happening.