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NiteStryker

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#1 13 years ago

Since prision is not really reguarded as punishment to hardcore criminals who have been there 7 or 8 times, and since it costs alot to pay for the upkeep of criminals, I think we as a society should bring back new forms of punishment.

(1)Sentencing follows the jury's verdict. No more of this waiting for 3 months then sentence him. The judge should sentence after the verdict is read.

(2)Public Humiliation should be brought back. Instead of 6 months in prision, depending on the crime, re-institute public humiliation. Bring back lashes. So, say for robbing a bank, a person would get 25 lashes in a public square (as in Starship Troopers book/movie).

(3)Look at the rest of the world. In various Arab countries, they stone adulterers to death. the US should do the same. Other countries, if you steal, you get your hand cut off. The US should do the same.

(4)Hard Labor. Build Federal Supermaximum security prisions in the far areas in the Alaskan Tundras. Instead of the death sentence or prision term, send criminals there to do hard labor in the harsh environment. If they escape, they die in the cold. Do not give them cable or access to computers or any time of recreation. They are there for punishment. Not to play videos on ebaumsworld.

(5)Hold parents accountable. If a kid shoots up a school, and there were reasonable signs, do not blame video games. Do not blame violent movies. Blame the parents for not noticing something is wrong when the kid has blueprints of the school on his wall and hes polishing a .45 before bed every night, and a piece of paper saying 'List of Targets' tacked on his wall.

(6)Hold people accountable. If some fat slob eats McDonalds every day, then wants to sue them because their food made him fat, do not allow the suit to go thru, and mabey even punish the slob.

(7)Militarize the borders. Put the national guard on patrol. Build a fence with spotlights and barbed wire along our border with Mexico to stop illegals from crossing. Enough of this ACLU crap that says its unconstitutional to protect our borders, Enough of these pro illegals saying that a fence forces illegals to cross in harsh terrain and deserts to get here. If you want to become a US citizen, I say bravo and I welcome you to do so. But do it legally. Arnold Schwarzenegger had to wait 15 years to become a citizen. If he can do it, you can do it.




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#2 13 years ago

How to fix society, the realistic way that will actually fix things:

1. Globalisation. Nationalism is something from the 1930s. No more power crazy countries, no more madmen with armies and no more wars. We're all human, we need to work together to get things going.

2. Equalisation. With an extended globalisation, we need to work on reducing the difference between poverty and richness. Some people's only possesion is a cardboard box, while other people have 7 cars. This is rediculous, and this is not because poor people are lazy and don't work.

3. Integration. Even though with the reduced poverty, people from the third world will still try to move to the western countries. Intergration between the different peoples in the regions of the world needs to improve. Teach people about religions and cultures, so that they may not misunderstand and do wrong things.

4. Problemsolving. Attack problems at the source. Don't extend prison sentences, investigate why people are stealing and fix the problem, so that people may steal less. We all know increasing prison sentences don't work. Look at the USA, they still have the death sentence, and yet they still have an amazingly high crimerate.




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#3 13 years ago

Seems too... cruel.




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#4 13 years ago
(3)Look at the rest of the world. In various Arab countries, they stone adulterers to death. the US should do the same. Other countries, if you steal, you get your hand cut off. The US should do the same.

They should do it.Its dead necessary.This may reduce crimes in the US.As well as corruption.How do you think rapists should be treated?Burnt alive?Acid poured down the throat?




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#5 13 years ago
NiteStryker

(5)Hold parents accountable. If a kid shoots up a school, and there were reasonable signs, do not blame video games. Do not blame violent movies. Blame the parents for not noticing something is wrong when the kid has blueprints of the school on his wall and hes polishing a .45 before bed every night, and a piece of paper saying 'List of Targets' tacked on his wall.[/quote]

Yeah, i agree to a point but it's not easy being a parent. It's not exactly world news that kids are phenomenal in keeping stuff from their parents.

LIGHTNING [NL]

2. Equalisation. With an extended globalisation, we need to work on reducing the difference between poverty and richness. Some people's only possesion is a cardboard box, while other people have 7 cars. This is rediculous, and this is not because poor people are lazy and don't work.

In orther words you want to scrap capitalism? As long as you have capitalism there will ALWAYS be rich and poor, ALWAYS people in need because the whole system rest on that very principle.

[quote=LIGHTNING [NL]]4. Problemsolving. Attack problems at the source. Don't extend prison sentences, investigate why people are stealing and fix the problem, so that people may steal less. We all know increasing prison sentences don't work. Look at the USA, they still have the death sentence, and yet they still have an amazingly high crimerate.

What do you do with all the people that comit crime because they want the adrenalin kick out of it or ego boost or status and so on. How do you attack that problem, give them dope?




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#6 13 years ago

rahmanThey should do it.Its dead necessary.This may reduce crimes in the US.As well as corruption.How do you think rapists should be treated?Burnt alive?Acid poured down the throat?[/QUOTE] No...cut off his penis. Its that simple.

Lightning2. Equalisation. With an extended globalisation, we need to work on reducing the difference between poverty and richness. Some people's only possesion is a cardboard box, while other people have 7 cars. This is rediculous, and this is not because poor people are lazy and don't work.

Thats called 'capitalism'. What you are looking toward is communism. Even tho I do agree with your point, I dont see it happening.

[QUOTE=Copperhead]Yeah, i agree to a point but it's not easy being a parent. It's not exactly world news that kids are phenomenal in keeping stuff from their parents.

I agree that incidents can slip by, but some things are recgonizable. And we can account for slip ups, but when a kid shoots a school up and then people blame video games, thats just ridiculous.




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#7 13 years ago
NiteStryker I agree that incidents can slip by, but some things are recgonizable. And we can account for slip ups, but when a kid shoots a school up and then people blame video games, thats just ridiculous.

Yes, that is redicolous, i agree. Incidents like that are linked to mechanisms that everyone is responsible for, including the other students. It doesn't have to go that far if people would just open their eyes just alittle more then required to see their own noses.




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#8 13 years ago
What do you do with all the people that comit crime because they want the adrenalin kick out of it or ego boost or status and so on. How do you attack that problem, give them dope?

Seriously, how many people do you think commit a crime because they want an adrenaline kick or an ego boost? And even if this is the case, you can still go down to the wroots and fix it. Go to talk groups, make sure that the person in question doesn't hang around people with bad influence.

Thats called 'capitalism'. What you are looking toward is communism. Even tho I do agree with your point, I dont see it happening.

Actually, it's called socialism.




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#9 13 years ago
NiteStryker (7)Militarize the borders. Put the national guard on patrol. Build a fence with spotlights and barbed wire along our border with Mexico to stop illegals from crossing. Enough of this ACLU crap that says its unconstitutional to protect our borders, Enough of these pro illegals saying that a fence forces illegals to cross in harsh terrain and deserts to get here. If you want to become a US citizen, I say bravo and I welcome you to do so. But do it legally. Arnold Schwarzenegger had to wait 15 years to become a citizen. If he can do it, you can do it.

Dude I am Mexican immigrant to the states and it is some tough shit to get your papers it is by no means an easy process, also sometimes illegal immigrants are the people you least imagine I have a good friend who is one and my mom was one back in the 80s. BTW if the US would militarise the borders i would move back to Mexico get Subcomandante Marcos and sorta of like a Mexican Hezbollah that would attack the US positions.




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#10 13 years ago

[QUOTE='LIGHTNING [NL]']Seriously, how many people do you think commit a crime because they want an adrenaline kick or an ego boost? And even if this is the case, you can still go down to the wroots and fix it. Go to talk groups, make sure that the person in question doesn't hang around people with bad influence.[QUOTE] There is ALOT! Just take forinstance all those groups of "gangs" that go into the streets with the only intention of picking a fight. They don't need a reason to start pounding on you becuase pounding your skull in IS the reason. Not to speak of all those that steal all kinds of things, like forinstance carstereos, just for the thrill of it all. Do you seriously think they do it for the need of money? Another thing are so called "joyriders" which usually is rich kids having a bit of fun. Yeah, the adrenalin junkies are many and crime is easier to access then starting up projects like skydiving and cliffhanging. The whole society of people are just tilting more and more into the chase of getting more and more of larger and larger kicks for less and less effort. Thus the demise.