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#1 12 years ago

Ford announced today it is laying off and closing more plants. One that is being closed is the Ford plant in Indianapolis.

That plant built power steering pumps and rack and pinion steering units for most Ford vehicles.

The closure will affect roughly 10,000 people. The jobs are being outsourced, IIRC to China and Mexico.

My grandfather was a mechanical engineer and helped assemble and get that plant running and worked there for 25 years.

My dad worked there for 30 years and retired in 1990.

I know dozens of people and family friends who are now going to be unemployeed.

The Ford plant was the last large automaker plant in central Indiana. GM/Delco plant in Anderson was closed laying off 30,000 people a few years ago.

Chrysler just closed its foundry here a year ago and laid off 6000 people.

And its not just Ford who will be affected. Thousands of people are employed by businesses who deal with Ford and supply Ford.

Local businesses rely on that influx of money the Ford employees spend in the local economy.

The local Fire departments and Police rely on the taxes gained from those sales of food and property taxes paid by those employees.

The ripple effect is gonna be IMHO crippling.

The fallout of GM leaving was enourous, the fallout of Chrysler closing is still being felt. My neighborhood looks like its for sale because of so many homes for sale signs. Dozens of local businesses have closed because they depended on that monetary income that trickled down from the Chrysler plant which is less than two miles from my house.

The Ford plant was one of the largest plants in central Indiana. This closure is gonna hurt.




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#2 12 years ago

It's honestly baffling how Ford could mess up so bad in the past twenty some years. Granted, the Mustang is the coolest car to come out of the states in the past decade, and their trucks are top notch, but other than that, Ford has been skating on very thin ice for ages. And these commercials about sacrifices that Bill Ford is putting on nowadays sure isn't helping either.

Terrible shame, but hopefully Ford will be able to turn itself around soon.




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#3 12 years ago

Until there's more or less equal distribution of wealth in the world, there will always be people somewhere that will do something for less money. And the industry doesn't care about being patriotic with whom they offer jobs, what it costs is what matters. Major, world-wide changes are necessary to change the stagnation of industry in the first world.




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#4 12 years ago
KarstUntil there's more or less equal distribution of wealth in the world, there will always be people somewhere that will do something for less money. And the industry doesn't care about being patriotic with whom they offer jobs, what it costs is what matters. Major, world-wide changes are necessary to change the stagnation of industry in the first world.

That would be all fine and dandy if the cost of living changed to the same as the third world.

My mortgage payment and utilities havent gone down, nor has the cost of groceries.




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#5 12 years ago
Ma DeuceIt's honestly baffling how Ford could mess up so bad in the past twenty some years. Granted, the Mustang is the coolest car to come out of the states in the past decade, and their trucks are top notch, but other than that, Ford has been skating on very thin ice for ages. And these commercials about sacrifices that Bill Ford is putting on nowadays sure isn't helping either.

I believe it is because that the foreign car market has wisely made cars more fuel efficient and is utilizing hybrid technology at a mind blowing pace. Ford has done no such thing, while still creating gas guzzlers (mustangs and trucks) that sit in car dealership lots rotting away.




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#6 12 years ago
JeffroI believe it is because that the foreign car market has wisely made cars more fuel efficient and is utilizing hybrid technology at a mind blowing pace. Ford has done no such thing, while still creating gas guzzlers (mustangs and trucks) that sit in car dealership lots rotting away.

Focus is not a gas guzzler and it is one of Fords best selling cars.

Why pay autoworkers $10-$12 an hour to work 40 hours a week when they can ship the jobs to Mexico and China and pay $2 an hour and not pay health benefits.

Basically rich people working in air conditioned high rise offices making over $750,000 a year dont give a dam if Bob and Marget who live on the corner and have worked at the company for 20 years are suddenly out on the street and lost their car, their house, and their source of income. Mr. Suit only cares if he gets his bonus check next month.

The US is going through a class reorganization into the rich and pooor. The middle class is disappearing. They are either figthing their way into the rich or sinking ninto the poor.




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#7 12 years ago

Anlushac11That would be all fine and dandy if the cost of living changed to the same as the third world.

My mortgage payment and utilities havent gone down, nor has the cost of groceries.

And I'm guessing they won't be going down in the near future either.

In my opinion, Jeffro, that new technology plays a secondary role when compared to the quality of the car. The simple fact is that the Japanese are building superior automobiles for less.

And actually, those Mustangs are currently Ford's top seller I believe. The F Series is a helluva truck, and, unlike SUVs, most people who drive said truck actually need the size and power that a pickup offers. So there I have to disagree with you. The F Series (primarily the F-150) and the Mustang are the two cars that are keeping Ford above the water.




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#8 12 years ago

Jeffro does have a point though. Also as environmental standards in other countries goes up, and America's doesn't, American cars cannot be sold in foreign markets. Even China has higher standards that America.

So you end up with ineffiecent cars that can only be sold at home, while at the same time open everything up to cheap foriegn imports. No wonder it's going the way Anlushac described.




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#9 12 years ago

For a long time, perhaps this policy is still in existance, you can not buy American cars in Japan. Not because of environmental reasons, but the Japanese auotmakers didn't want to lose anything to Americans in Japan.




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#10 12 years ago

Anlushac11Focus is not a gas guzzler and it is one of Fords best selling cars.

Why pay autoworkers $10-$12 an hour to work 40 hours a week when they can ship the jobs to Mexico and China and pay $2 an hour and not pay health benefits.

Basically rich people working in air conditioned high rise offices making over $750,000 a year dont give a dam if Bob and Marget who live on the corner and have worked at the company for 20 years are suddenly out on the street and lost their car, their house, and their source of income. Mr. Suit only cares if he gets his bonus check next month.

The US is going through a class reorganization into the rich and pooor. The middle class is disappearing. They are either figthing their way into the rich or sinking ninto the poor.

That should be much more concerning than terrorism. It will have much more disasterous effects for the American nation, and will really tear apart the socio-political fabric in America. All those small-town right wing people who have been taught to hate leftwing ideas will suddenly realise (perhaps) that leftwing ideas are what they want. The rightwing neo-liberal policies undertaken by the successive governments of the 80s and 90s has just created a faster race to the bottom.