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Komrad_B

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#11 11 years ago
Just because they may be a radicle Christian group doesn't mean you shoudl take their voice away does it?

Should we allow radical islamic groups to spread hate messages on TV and radio?

Freedom of speech, like everything else, may be a right, it is also a privilege. Censorship of hate, intolerance and violence does NOT prevent the progress of society, because its rational thought that does. Thus, someone CAN be agaisnt gay marriage, or gays in general, in Canada and speak about it if he at least uses other arguments than "I HATE THEM!" or worst, "GOD HATES THEM!". We are free to have opinions, and we are free to voice any of them as long as it is done with respect.

By silenceing a group that criticized the government on its over acceptance of gays is a step that is reminicant of totalitarian states of the early 1900's and also various monarchial states from 1350 to the mid 1700's in Europe.

I doubt Canada will become a dictatorial country because gay haters are censored. This argument is atrocious, I could very well reply that because hate groups are mostly allowed to speak freely in the US, they will eventually gain support like the Nazis and turn it into the Fourth Reich. :rolleyes:

No, I don't think this will happen. And it won't happen with Canada either. Besiedes, we don't get assaulted by the CIA at school if we draw pictures of George W. Bush getting smacked by a giant bunny, so we might be one step ahead of our pretentious neighbors.




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#12 11 years ago

This must be a joke. It can' t be true. I don' t belive there' s such organization. It isn' t even a church though, it' s two families! Can someone explain me why they are not going to hell and I-- no, wait, I know why I' ll go to hell... well, you got the point. They should get arrested and deported on an island full of homosexuals! Freedome of speech my ass, there must be some rule! You can' t just say whatever you want. But that' s my opinion.




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#13 11 years ago
Buddy Jesus;3641326Understand I'm not defending them because though I am a Christian and dissagree with the whole gay rights bit this is not the way they should go about spreading their message. I'm not defending what the said I'm defending their right to say it. I fail to see how an organization like this is not allowed to voice their extreamists opinions but yet the KKK and neo nazi groups can say all they want to and make all the threats they want, so long as they never follow through on them. When I look at a progressive country like Canada, a country that is very tolerent and accepting of many things, and see an instance like this it seems that all the toleration went out the window. By silenceing a group that criticized the government on its over acceptance of gays is a step that is reminicant of totalitarian states of the early 1900's and also various monarchial states from 1350 to the mid 1700's in Europe. If a county such as Canada can be so progressive and accepting why can't it be accepting of even the most nit whitted ultra conservative ideas? Now I'm not critizing Canada or the Canadian government I just simply don't understand. Just because they may be a radicle Christian group doesn't mean you shoudl take their voice away does it?

I want you to go to hell! and burn there for 1000's of years. I also believe god hates you in the highest way because you use the internet .............................I can say that i have the right to? I may have the right but have to draw a line some where

(what i said was a example please do not take it as a open threat)




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#14 11 years ago
Buddy Jesus;3641326Understand I'm not defending them because though I am a Christian and dissagree with the whole gay rights bit this is not the way they should go about spreading their message. I'm not defending what the said I'm defending their right to say it. I fail to see how an organization like this is not allowed to voice their extreamists opinions but yet the KKK and neo nazi groups can say all they want to and make all the threats they want, so long as they never follow through on them. When I look at a progressive country like Canada, a country that is very tolerent and accepting of many things, and see an instance like this it seems that all the toleration went out the window. By silenceing a group that criticized the government on its over acceptance of gays is a step that is reminicant of totalitarian states of the early 1900's and also various monarchial states from 1350 to the mid 1700's in Europe. If a county such as Canada can be so progressive and accepting why can't it be accepting of even the most nit whitted ultra conservative ideas? Now I'm not critizing Canada or the Canadian government I just simply don't understand. Just because they may be a radicle Christian group doesn't mean you shoudl take their voice away does it?

oh course not I take no offence. Yet WBC claims there "holy" yet rolls around in hate-crimes and then hinds behind the ammendments (sp?), let say for an example I came to your country and set your flag a flame beacuse of the war in Iraq, am I still in the freedom of speech amendment? See yes Canada is very tolorent but to a point, when WBC came up here they didn't show face with one person holding a hate-crime sign they had about 20-30 people, now the RMCP didn't really like that too much, and I doubt they were making threats of pain of arrest. Okay now on to voiceing their extreamists opinions. Plain and simple there words can spark Hate-crimes against homosexuals or lead to hate-crimes which we don't want beacuse out west (in Canada) there very christian and some could follow WBC words to the letter. So yes we have the right to shut WBC up weather it's for good or short-term, Canada doesn't need their word echoing in our country whatsoever, and beacuse of WBC and jesus camp and other over the top Christian group I view all Christian like them and never will be Christian again in my life.


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#15 11 years ago

I honestly can't understand what motivates these people. I find it hard to believe that anyone could honestly be this narrow minded about something as open to theoretical dispute as christianity and take it this far. I mean, with most middle-eastern terrorists these days, they were brought up with the lies, most if not all of them never even read the koran. But these guys, jesus. They... somehow came to believe this crap, and now they're openly corrupting the minds of the kids that protest with them, who don't even know what "fag" means... and it's happening in the fucking USA. All for free speech and all that, but this just goes too far. I'm quite proud of myself for not mentioning sniper fire throughout what I just said.




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#16 11 years ago

Actually I wonder why they have not been arrested for their shoutfests.

The only way neonazis in my country can do all their scanding is behind closed doors and on private parties.

A group like this, religious or not should be thrown into jail. If they made a peacefull protest or a petition with no abhorent messeges I wouldn't mind them--even if I believe that homosexuals are completely normal people that have a different sexual preference. I'd only say, that a group that makes a peacefull protest, that does not antagonise but makes it opinion be heard, just disagrees with me on what's moral and what isn't.

But reading what they did. And what they plan to do....... Had I been an attendee on the VT funerall and some bastards would have strated something like this, saying that completely innocent people were responsible for the death of my friends and/or family. I'd take one of their sign and whack them with it. Later I'd probably preach emotionall stress and impulsive reaction in pain. Also somewhere, I'd let the line fall, saying that actually the ones responsible are simmilliar hate groups.




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#17 11 years ago

In america, your thoughts are not illegal, nor is what you say. These people are not putting any lives in jeopardy, (the "Fire" in a theater example). They are merely expressing themselves. Which makes this a great country. If you don't like what they have to say, don't listen to it. I find it bizarre that there was a thread created about "Fascist america in 10 easy steps", yet censoring the WBC would be the fascist thing to do.

Free speech, it's what makes this country great. Preach on WBC, and God Bless.




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#18 11 years ago

There are limits to free speach

Believe me, not even in america would a muslem be able to go on the street and shouting death to the infidels. America shall pay etc without being placed in custody--either a psychologicall ward or directly into prison.




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#19 11 years ago

A muslim would be allowed to shout death. KKK Rallies and Neo-Nazis do it all the time. The First Amendment of the constitution addresses this--among other things.

Sigh.

I think a crash course in constitutional law is in order. Do I have to do it?




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#20 11 years ago

So why are muslim selected out from the majority. Why are controls pertaining them much stricter?

Or why in the past did the CIA hunt down american communists?

I find this a selected applience of civil rights