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RadioShackRob

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#1 10 years ago
I was doing my homework and look what I happened to find... I just think this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

What year was that? As we progress through this course, it’s important we understand how dates are defined. In about 532 AD, a Roman Catholic monk, Dionysius Exiguus, developed a dating system based on the supposed date of Jesus’ birth. For the past couple of hundred years, historians have used Exiguus’ system of dating. The system was based on counting backward or forward in time from the supposed date of Jesus’ birth, which is considered year zero. We say “supposed date” because scholars will probably never agree on the exact date Jesus was born. Using this system, in the year 2005 AD, the prefix “AD” stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for “the year of our Lord.” Likewise, the prefix “BC,” like in the year 300 BC, stands for “Before Christ.” In this course, however, we will be using a slightly different system of dating that has been developed to overcome problems with Exiguus’ system. In this new system, historians use the religiously neutral abbreviation “CE” for “Common Era” in place of “AD.” In place of “BC,” the abbreviation “BCE” which stands for “Before Common Era” is used. In this form of dating, the year 532 AD becomes 532 CE, and the year 300 BC becomes 300 BCE. (You may note the numbering was not modified.) The new system of dating replaces the terms that assume everyone follows a Christian perspective. Year zero is no longer necessarily based on the birth of Jesus of Nazareth. Scholars don’t all agree about when the Common Era began, though. While some still believe it began when Jesus was born, others state the Common Era began when ocean exploration created a trading network across the world. So, as you read through the course materials, remember that 2005 C.E. is 2005 years after the year zero, which is give or take a couple of years, around the time of Jesus’ birth. Who cares? So what if people are not Christian, it doesn't force any belief system on to others. Its just silly... And people are going to whine about it that much? My god!




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#2 10 years ago
RadioShackRob;4360351
I was doing my homework and look what I happened to find... I just think this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

What year was that? As we progress through this course, it’s important we understand how dates are defined. In about 532 AD, a Roman Catholic monk, Dionysius Exiguus, developed a dating system based on the supposed date of Jesus’ birth. For the past couple of hundred years, historians have used Exiguus’ system of dating. The system was based on counting backward or forward in time from the supposed date of Jesus’ birth, which is considered year zero. We say “supposed date” because scholars will probably never agree on the exact date Jesus was born. Using this system, in the year 2005 AD, the prefix “AD” stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for “the year of our Lord.” Likewise, the prefix “BC,” like in the year 300 BC, stands for “Before Christ.” In this course, however, we will be using a slightly different system of dating that has been developed to overcome problems with Exiguus’ system. In this new system, historians use the religiously neutral abbreviation “CE” for “Common Era” in place of “AD.” In place of “BC,” the abbreviation “BCE” which stands for “Before Common Era” is used. In this form of dating, the year 532 AD becomes 532 CE, and the year 300 BC becomes 300 BCE. (You may note the numbering was not modified.) The new system of dating replaces the terms that assume everyone follows a Christian perspective. Year zero is no longer necessarily based on the birth of Jesus of Nazareth. Scholars don’t all agree about when the Common Era began, though. While some still believe it began when Jesus was born, others state the Common Era began when ocean exploration created a trading network across the world. So, as you read through the course materials, remember that 2005 C.E. is 2005 years after the year zero, which is give or take a couple of years, around the time of Jesus’ birth. Who cares? So what if people are not Christian, it doesn't force any belief system on to others. Its just silly... And people are going to whine about it that much? My god!

How is this dumb? It's not based on attempt to de-religize time, it's an attempt to make history more objective by providing a definite date to centralize time around. Many people think the birth of Jesus occured closer to what we think is 4 C.E.




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#3 10 years ago

I understand not wanting God in things like the pledge of allegiance or in our courthouses, but I never did understand the whole C.E. , B.C.E. thing. To me it's just taking it to an extreme. A.D. and B.C. have been the common way of measuring time for centuries.




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#4 10 years ago
Afterburner;4360530I understand not wanting God in things like the pledge of allegiance or in our courthouses, but I never did understand the whole C.E. , B.C.E. thing. To me it's just taking it to an extreme. A.D. and B.C. have been the common way of measuring time for centuries.

I usually connect C.E with modern times, such as in Past-19th Century, and BC as of course Before Christ. But why isn't "Year Zero" connected to when the bible or whatever first appeared? It's the only proof we have, stories of a person we have no physical proof of existed. It would be much more understandable instead of connecting the Year Zero to a date in a book, rather than the book itself.:lookaround:




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#5 10 years ago

The most logical way to measure time would be to start at the big bang as year zero. Our time system is anything but logical, and its not like changing A.D, to C.E. and B.C. to B.C.E. makes it any more logical.




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#6 10 years ago
Afterburner;4360622The most logical way to measure time would be to start at the big bang as year zero.

I can imagine the next new year's party...

"Three, Two, One... Happy Thirteen billion seven hundred thirty-five million six hundred seventy-two thousand eight hundred twenty-one!" :p




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#7 10 years ago

'LIGHTNING [NL;4360628']I can imagine the next new year's party...

"Three, Two, One... Happy Thirteen billion seven hundred thirty-five million six hundred seventy-two thousand eight hundred twenty-one!" :p

You forgot the last part "estimated to the nearest ten million years!"




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#8 10 years ago
Afterburner;4360622The most logical way to measure time would be to start at the big bang as year zero. Our time system is anything but logical, and its not like changing A.D, to C.E. and B.C. to B.C.E. makes it any more logical.

I don't wanna be saying "Hurray for the nine millionth trillion in a billionth year!". Maybe from the creation of the first watch(Sun watch, mind you), since that is when time actually started ticking. Or we could presume the world ends(im not religious) December 21, 2012, and count the days down to there. Much more anticipation! "Only 9 trillion seconds till we all die... HURRAY!"




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#9 10 years ago
Guinea PigHow is this dumb? It's not based on attempt to de-religize time, it's an attempt to make history more objective by providing a definite date to centralize time around.

Indeed.

So it's:

AD2008 1429AH 5768 Juche 97

2008CE covers all the above (and dozens more) in a single package.




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#10 10 years ago

Changing the indentifier but not the year zero seems to still leave a huge reference to Christianity to be honest.