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#1 12 years ago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4976368.stm

BBCUS 'blocks' Palestinian aid plan European diplomats say the US is blocking a plan to resume direct financial aid to the Palestinians. The European Commission is considering plans to send funds to the office of the president, bypassing the Hamas-led Palestinian government.

Under the proposal, money for basic services such as health and education, could go to Mahmoud Abbas' office.

The commission's report said the plan might "avert or delay" a collapse of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

Direct aid to the authority was cut off following Hamas' election victory.

The United Nations estimates that a quarter of the Palestinian population depends on government salaries. The PA employs some 165,000 people.

But the severance of donor funding has meant that the government has been unable to pay wages for March and April.

Maintaining pressure

BBC Middle East analyst Roger hardy says the Bush administration wants to maintain the economic pressure on the Hamas-led government.

PA FINANCIAL CRISIS $116m: PA's monthly wage bill PA employs 165,000 people 25% of people in West Bank and Gaza depend on PA wages

The official view in Washington is that if Hamas refuses to recognise Israel, and eventually collapses, it will have no-one to blame but itself.

But, our correspondent says, many in Europe feel that wielding the big stick against Hamas will be counter-productive, and that it is in no-one's interests for Gaza and the West Bank to descend ever deeper into poverty and lawlessness.

Also on Friday, thousands of Palestinians took part in demonstrations in the West Bank and Gaza in support of the Hamas government.

'Averting collapse'

Hamas beat Mr Abbas' Fatah faction in January's election, but has faced a severe financial crisis since forming a government.

International donors say they cannot pass funding to a government led by a group they designate as a terrorist organisation and are hoping to pressure Hamas into recognising Israel and renouncing violence.

A European Commission report on the proposal says: "With current or even substantially increased levels of funding, the EU will not be able to stave off a crisis but might be able to avert or delay a collapse."

Under the European plan, which is similar to one proposed recently by France, donors could set up a pool for funds in co-ordination with the UN, the World Bank or the International Monetary Fund.

The Arab League and Hamas have been trying to find a way to pay PA employees directly from abroad.

Hamas accused the US of blocking this deal.

Sweden and Hamas

In a separate development, Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson has defended his country's decision to grant a visa to a Palestinian cabinet minister, Atef Odwan, who is a member of Hamas.

Mr Persson said the Swedish government considered Hamas to be a terrorist organisation but said this did not mean that individual members of the group could not be granted visas.

Mr Atef is expected to visit Sweden on Saturday to attend a conference in the southern city of Malmo.

Earlier this week, Sweden rejected visa applications from two other Palestinian officials belonging to Hamas.

This has nothing to do with hamas leading the government, its finally an excuse to block, even EUROPEAN, aide to palastine. and the aide is gonna by pass hamas directly for palastenians.

Now palastenians will not trust us even more then they do now, which might bring on more poverty, and terror over there than there already is.

I think this is wrong, what the USA government is doing, the money if it will go directly to workers needs to be sent now, these peoples are very hungry and need the aide.

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#2 12 years ago

'They're dying, let them die'




GOD111

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#3 12 years ago

That Sweden is a fucking disgrace to letting them in to the European Community, that is my honest opinion. I'm glad I have left that BS-country!




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#4 12 years ago

Punishing palestinian workers in order to try and pressure Hamas into rolling over is.. wrong.




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#5 12 years ago

-DarthMaul-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4976368.stm

This has nothing to do with hamas leading the government, its finally an excuse to block, even EUROPEAN, aide to palastine. and the aide is gonna by pass hamas directly for palastenians.

Now palastenians will not trust us even more then they do now, which might bring on more poverty, and terror over there than there already is.

I think this is wrong, what the USA government is doing, the money if it will go directly to workers needs to be sent now, these peoples are very hungry and need the aide.

opinions?

Oh yeah, we just want to fuck over those poor Palestinians.

:vikki:

It is about Hamas, only Hamas, and will be lifted when Hamas recgonizes Israel and agrees they have a right to exist too.




styphon

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#6 12 years ago

All the US is trying to do is to get Hamas to renounce violence and accept that Israel is a country in its own rights. This can only lead to more peace, or the colapse of the Palastinian 'Government'. I'm usualy anti-bush, but for once I think that America may be doing the right thing. Look at it this way, if money is sent to government employees, then we are paying the wages for a terorist organisation. What kind of example is that setting?




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#7 12 years ago
*SW3D3*That Sweden is a fucking disgrace to letting them in to the European Community, that is my honest opinion. I'm glad I have left that BS-country!

Good thing. In the US they sneak in, but in sweden, they roll out the red carpet for them:lol:. I wonder what they want to get, 1/2 rotten herring in a can?

Punishing palestinian workers in order to try and pressure Hamas into rolling over is.. wrong.

They elected hammas, so they have to deal with the results of electing terroists.

I won't be happy with giving any aid to the PA unless we have US marines over there giving it out. We tried to give money to china in the 40's but it never made it to the people, same for vietnam.




Tas

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USMA2010Oh yeah, we just want to fuck over those poor Palestinians.

:vikki:

It is about Hamas, only Hamas, and will be lifted when Hamas recgonizes Israel and agrees they have a right to exist too.

Which is never going to happen. And even if this thing had a change of succeeding, its still wrong to impose a global blockade of funds when its not neccesairy. I hope you enjoy the new terrorist recruits that this little stunt will produce.. and you wonder why people hate you so much. :rolleyes:

They elected hammas, so they have to deal with the results of electing terroists.

Nice generalisation.




Nostradamouse

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#9 12 years ago
PethegreatI won't be happy with giving any aid to the PA unless we have US marines over there giving it out. We tried to give money to china in the 40's but it never made it to the people, same for vietnam.

Yea... Tchang Kai Check was such a good choice to pour in money.:rolleyes:




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#10 12 years ago

The 13th RaptorWhich is never going to happen. And even if this thing had a change of succeeding, its still wrong to impose a global blockade of funds when its not neccesairy. I hope you enjoy the new terrorist recruits that this little stunt will produce.. and you wonder why people hate you so much. :rolleyes:

Nice generalisation.

If they can't afford to pay wages, and are on the verge of collapse, how are they going to train terrorists. They need to be highly trained specialists in this day and age. But if they're still training terrorists, why should we pay their employee's wages? Stop training and pay your employee's would be better. You're talking about condoning terrorism by sending that money.