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#11 13 years ago

Gee, should we support Kai Check or Mao?

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And no, they didn't elect Hamas. They elected anybody but Fatah.

Styphon, have you ever heard of a couple of countries called Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Syria?




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#12 13 years ago

Heh, actually he is right, I think more people voted for Hamas by percentage, than for Olmert or Bush. Right now in palastine, Ive seen it on TV, They are in the streets telling america to respect Palastine's DEMOCRACY, because in a Democracy, the people choose who runs the country, not another foreign body.

Im just saying, if america dosent want to give them aid, which it isnt, then dont, just dont block the europeans or anyone else from doing so.

then we are paying the wages for a terorist organisation. What kind of example is that setting?

actually your paying wages of normal non-hamas workers. And the EU has already said it wants to continue donating directly into the pockets of workers.

I won't be happy with giving any aid to the PA unless we have US marines over there giving it out. We tried to give money to china in the 40's but it never made it to the people, same for vietnam.

But the palastenian government was already ran by Yassif Arafat, a man already known to be a terrorist by all americans and europeans(well some anyways), and the money always went to the people then. same as it always will, hamas has nothing to do with the money, except try to get money to its workers, and make sure the country dosent go FUBAR.




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#13 13 years ago
Yea... Tchang Kai Check was such a good choice to pour in money.roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif

That is why I want the money going from the hands of US directly to the people in person.

Which is never going to happen. And even if this thing had a change of succeeding, its still wrong to impose a global blockade of funds when its not neccesairy. I hope you enjoy the new terrorist recruits that this little stunt will produce.. and you wonder why people hate you so much. roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif

Ah well, they will come to Iraq and die then. Ridding some more scum from the middle east.




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#14 13 years ago

USMA2010Gee, should we support Kai Check or Mao?

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And no, they didn't elect Hamas. They elected anybody but Fatah.

Styphon, have you ever heard of a couple of countries called Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Syria?[/quote]

Indeed, I've heard of all three, and of numerous things about them. How that applies here though I don't know.

[quote=-DarthMaul-] actually your paying wages of normal non-hamas workers. And the EU has already said it wants to continue donating directly into the pockets of workers.

These are government workers they are talking about paying. Even if it goes strait to the workers why can't Hamas pay them? Where is all their money? If they truely believed in helping their people then they would divert money from other sources. If they are incapable of doing this then they shouldn't be in government and they'll fail, making way for someone else to do a better job.




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#15 13 years ago
These are government workers they are talking about paying. Even if it goes strait to the workers why can't Hamas pay them? Where is all their money? If they truely believed in helping their people then they would divert money from other sources. If they are incapable of doing this then they shouldn't be in government and they'll fail, making way for someone else to do a better job.

You actually THINK they have other sources? If they put money into thier workers, they will have enough money to pay for the workers, but not enough that goes into the other sectors. This problem has been present ever since the fall of palastine, whoever runs the government will have the same problem, Palastine cant run with out donations.




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#16 13 years ago

Yes, but it will get donations if Hamas renounces terrorism. So why doesn't it?




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#17 13 years ago

why would it? Israel has been killing militant, and alot of non militants for a while, both of them are fighting each other. besides, they have already signed a cease fire treaty, and as long as israel respects it so will Hamas, but there coul dbe other parties, like Fatah, which is a rival to hamas which wont follow what hamas says, that has nothing to do with Hamas's cease fire.

Neither Palastenians nor Israel will stop the fighting, Hamas renouncing it wont do anything.




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#18 13 years ago

Hamas renouncing violence would be a huge step in the way of piece. If you are renouncing violence then I fail to see any other pov on it. The Palastine government doesn't acknowledge Israel and so takes what it already believes to be its. If they acknowledge Israel (this being one of the terms) then they will be forced to acknowledge their legal claim to the land that they do. This would remove Palastine's reason for war and would lead to a cease of hostilities from the government.




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#19 13 years ago
This would remove Palastine's reason for war and .....

exactly, Palastenians also want thier country back, your basically asking them to surrender.




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#20 13 years ago

PethegreatAh well, they will come to Iraq and die then. Ridding some more scum from the middle east.[/quote]

Along with those poor, poor american troops.. or, maybe they will even come to kill off some relief/construction workers. I understand why you are being so positive about this! ;)

[quote=styphon]These are government workers they are talking about paying. Even if it goes strait to the workers why can't Hamas pay them? Where is all their money? If they truely believed in helping their people then they would divert money from other sources. If they are incapable of doing this then they shouldn't be in government and they'll fail, making way for someone else to do a better job.

Might be a good time to get rid of the US goverment right about now then.. last time i checked they are STILL barrowing money from the rest of the world. Why dont they stop fucking with the middle east and improve the health/school system at home? Hey.. you tell me.