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#1 11 years ago

We went from this sublime display of talent:

to this disgraceful display of objectifying women and barking in a microphone:

My first question is: WHAT HAPPENED?

Why do people listen to this garbage and even attempt to call it music? Talking about bitches and hoes is disgusting and needs to be put to an end. Will society ever rebel against the music industry and stop listening to garbage? I think we are musically regressing...

Things started going downhill in the 50's with rockabilly and only gotten worse as the years have progressed. Yes, I like rock n' roll like any other fellow, but lately it has been nothing but garbage. People with talent should be praised instead of the gold-toothed/emo/boy band jerkoffs currently taking the stage. And what kills me is that people are stupid enough to buy into these talentless, classless trends and live their life like it's a fucking rap video. Yeesh...




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#2 11 years ago

Jeffro;3660312 Why do people listen to this garbage and even attempt to call it music? Talking about bitches and hoes is disgusting and needs to be put to an end. Will society ever rebel against the music industry and stop listening to garbage? I think we are musically regressing...

Things started going downhill in the 50's with rockabilly and only gotten worse as the years have progressed. Yes, I like rock n' roll like any other fellow, but lately it has been nothing but garbage. People with talent should be praised instead of the gold-toothed/emo/boy band jerkoffs currently taking the stage. And what kills me is that people are stupid enough to buy into these talentless, classless trends and live their life like it's a fucking rap video. Yeesh...

There was one band in the nineties that could possibly considered as the last pioneer band - Nirvana. Since they disbanded, there hasnt been any new Pioneers in the music genre. Instead, people have just been rewritting and remaking old stuff. Take the Post-Grunge and 'Emo' Genres for example. Post-Grunge is supposedly Grunge without Nirvana-Like Lyrics, and Emo is Punk with Nirvana-Like Lyrics. As for Rap, that really reached its peak in the late eighties / Early Nineties, and it has been going downhill ever since, perhaps possible of the lifestyle that artists in those genres continue to lead. I suppose the rap / emo domination at the moment doesnt have to do with people liking it, but the fact that music video stations like MTV and VH1 are trying really hard to sell that music. Because they know they can, and they have been.

There was one event last year at a school gala night - which is kind of a musical variety night. Anyway, there was this pair of New Zealanders (of Maori decent) who kind of hang around in the group of people that listen to rap stuff. They played a Ben Harper song that night, and they did it reasonably well. Everyone showed them the most amount of respect. Then, about fifteen minutes later, a four member band of white Australians got up and played 'For Whom the Bell tolls' by metallica, without vocals. The interesting thing was, while the metallica cover group was playing, the rap-loving people - the friends of the New Zealanders who had played before - showed absolutely no respect for the metal act, and walked outside until it was finished. Now you can make whatever you want of that, but the basic fact is that the Rap-listening people showed no respect for other peoples musical tastes when everyone showed respect to them.

[note: I was not being racist in that last paragraph, but my descriptions of the people help build an image of what happened. I do hope no-one takes offense to what I wrote, if so, I will edit it.]

Back to the main topic, as the Red Hot Chili Peppers said at the grammy awards this year, rock has been kind of stale of late, and we all hope its only just a phase.




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#3 11 years ago

it evolved...simple, power tabs, lyrics..everything the old way of music is gone.


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#4 11 years ago
Sa Anupuw;3660380it evolved...simple, power tabs, lyrics..everything the old way of music is gone.

:agreed Music is now a mass-produced consumer product.

Not too bad though if you ask me, there are tons of great music out there, the last few days, for example, I have listened to the same part from an opera of Bizet. Once you get used to that kind of music it's like a drug.

Edit: This looks like a good opportunity to make some advertisement: We do actually have a music forum. I know, you want to discuss the downfall of music in the Pub right now, but you can check it out anyway. We could really need some people over there who are interested in discussing music.




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#5 11 years ago

APOCALYPTICA is good band BTW all 4 cello player trained in classical music there covers in clued Ac/dc and Metallica songs. You haven't heard hells bells till you hear it with 4 Cellos or unforgiven for that matter as well. I haven't heard them sing much...only in a few of there songs there Very good so it seems


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#6 11 years ago
Sa Anupuw;3660402APOCALYPTICA is good band BTW all 4 cello player trained in classical music there covers in clued Ac/dc and Metallica songs. You haven't heard hells bells till you hear it with 4 Cellos or unforgiven for that matter as well.

Very true, their edition of "hall of the mountain king" is great as well. It's impressive what those guys manage to do with cellos.




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#7 11 years ago

Impressive? man they blow my mind away...there on of the more noteworthy bands out there atlest to me.


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#8 11 years ago

If there had been a message board in the 1920s and 1930s I bet many people back then would have said the exact same thing about the "classy art" you are talking about. It was a dirty, disgusting form of music to many. Of course it was taken up by the youngest generations and carried on for a few decades. And then the cycle repeated.

It is merely repeating itself once more. I don't like rap at all, but I don't think it has anything to do with rap being a "lesser" form of art, it is simply personal preference.




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#9 11 years ago

Iron Maiden one of the only decent bands left. Trivium are becoming a good band. Most rock/metal bands are still great works of art. there songs can take weeks to months to make and its a combination of skill, emotion and love. Back onto as I call "Chav Music": It seems that today any person who can spin a disc or turn a few nobs is a musician. its all MCs and Rappers who just take an overused track and start shouting crap all the way through it.




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#10 11 years ago

Sam is right. Old bands like Hammerfall are slowly loosing their feel, "Threshold" is so full of commercialist songs, its all wasted money and effort in my oppinion. Then there are bands who really fit into this new kind of music. As said, Iron Maiden keep up the flag of decent bands

After all, everyone finds something that fits him:nodding: