What is the point of patriotism? 28 replies

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#1 10 years ago

Shouldn't we be proud to be a part of Earth and Humanity instead of worshiping an ideal that only tears us apart as a race? The whole "12 people from *insert country* are worth 1 American" attitude is sickening and it needs to stop. Hating people you have never met and loathing a country you have never been to before needs to stop as well. What is the point in having pride in your nation if it only leads to the uneducated judgment of others that don't live in this nation?




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#2 10 years ago

That is a psychological problem. See, the part of our brain that leads to that behaviour is still stuck in the Stone Age. We belong to a group of people and the others are nothing more than potential enemies that want to take away our land, our home, our basis for life. Like many of our old instincts, like the fear in big empty halls, that one can take over completely. You do not want to know what Karl Marx wrote about one man that was for a compromise with the upper classes instead of a world revolution. He wrote this letter to his friend Engels and cursed that man on the most primitive and (yes) racist level he could. That man was jew and his ancestors came from Palestine to Germany. Even Karl Marx, the friend of all men, as he called himself, was able to be posessed by this.

What I want to say is: Racism and nationalism are things that can only be wiped from one's subconsciouness with a lot of discipline and, speaking inthose terms, you could say that many people are too lazy to get rid of their prejudices.

I understand you, you're definitely right, it makes no sense.


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#3 10 years ago

Why be proud of humans? Why not be proud of all life?

Or really, why be proud of life? Why not be proud of all molecules?

Or why be proud of just those molecules, why not be proud of all things in the universe?

I mean really you could keep breaking this question down more and more and more. There is no more of a reason to be proud of humanity than of your nation. I'm proud of my nation for the same reason I have pride in my family. It's just a part of who I am.




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#4 10 years ago

One should have pride in a nation's positive attributes, which is something the US government has helped to strip over the past few years.




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#5 10 years ago
Chemix2;4303972One should have pride in a nation's positive attributes, which is something the US government has helped to strip over the past few years.

Difference between government and the people though. I have pride in the general populace of the U.S., and also in our founding documents and principals, not in our form of government.




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#6 10 years ago

I consider myself a liberal, but I am very patriotic. I love Canada; what it stands for, the values we hold dear, the work we've done to make the world better... It gives one a sense of belonging and pride in the community.




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#7 10 years ago
Afterburner;4303974Difference between government and the people though. I have pride in the general populace of the U.S., and also in our founding documents and principals, not in our form of government.

I'm kind of sickened by the fact that so many Americans don't care that their freedom is being removed.




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#8 10 years ago

There is no problem with patriotism as long as one is simply proud of being part of *some country*, as long as patriotism doesn't make one think he is beter than someone else from an other country

I'm proud to be a Belgian, i think my country is pretty good to live in, this doesn't have to mean i don't think someone else can believe the same thing about an other country.




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#9 10 years ago

I hope aliens will attack us in the not so distant future. Patriotism will be obsolete and suddenly we will all be humans.




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#10 10 years ago

patriotism is a handy tool for government officials to get public opinion to go for war