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15th March 2005
Metall_pingwin;4738691Because that's how you win at the internet. Haven't you learned that yet dear Inyri?
Yes but I think this is the first time I've seen an Internet Win done pre-emptively. :lol:
camping!;4738625I figure eventually someone will try and explain how their denomination or religion is superior, and from there an argument will ensue.
Maybe I'll start now. Catholicism is superior to non-Catholic denominations. You are either Catholic, or protestant. As Catholics (well, the Catholics I know), we don't distinguish between different denominations. You're either a Catholic or a protester that waters down the true Christian faith established by Jesus and carried on through Peter our first bishop and pope.
Just want to clarify this post a bit. This is actually what we are taught in the Church. Yes, it is very self-righteous. Catholics, especially the orthodox Catholics (a distinction is made between pious orthodox Catholics and 'cafeteria catholics') are taught this. In the past, it was also taught that all non-Catholics were going to hell. This belief is no longer held.
As a devout Catholic, I have accepted their teachings. So yes, call me pious. Call me orthodox. While I respect non-Catholic denominations or religions, I encourage them to learn about the faith. Prominent politicians such as Newt Gingrich, George W. Bush, among others may be converting to Catholicism as well. I am not sure how I feel about either joining, neither hold positions on moral values that follow our teachings.
If you're going to argue about who is right and who is wrong when it comes to religious denominations, then I can settle the debate just by outright telling you.
No one is wrong, and no one is right.
No denomination has figured out that it's not what you believe in that counts, but rather that you believe in something, and what you do with those beliefs.
That's a cliché fortune-cookie quote if ever I saw one, but it's mostly true.
Admittedly I'm biased against religions, and that's the primary reason. Too much of it is about religions painting themselves as being the "right" way to live.
One of my beliefs just happens to be that believing there's a "right" way to live is actually the wrong way to live.
We're sentient creatures, and just like every other sentient creature, that means we should have the right to choose for ourselves, no?
Perhaps, the Catholic system may be loosening up. However, they still hold to their values as being correct and righteous.
Like all faiths, by teaching that a certain way to live is the right way, they are missing the bigger picture in my book.
So I don't subscribe to any religion, and that's basically why.
Live and let live. :clueless:
I don't know how, and I don't know why, but this is totally Sheep's fault.
Religion is too controversial for me to put any trust in, except maybe Buddhism (which I don't think is a religion btw) which deals with the mind and that is something I can believe in. Even though I don't believe in any religion, I am very spiritual, but that spiritualism is really limited to "there's something great out there" and it is waiting to be found. What that greatness is is a mystery, but my belief is that it is an enlightenment within the mind. The ego is proven to exist and what if it is removed? Can it be removed? Do enlightened beings actually exist? I don't believe so because it can't be proven, but can I still strive to be egoless? Sure. Only good will come of it anyway.
If you could call my spiritualism a religion, then it would be this:
- Be true to your mind - Keep your mind as void as possible of thoughts when thoughts are unneeded - We are all intertwined in a stream of life and good deeds keep the world going - Individuality is not necessarily good - The ego is the cause of all problems, but is not evil
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Personally, I'm not religous. A god may or may not exist, but believing in the wrong god may well be the only unforgivable sin and damn you to an eternity of pitchfork-related suffering. Whatever my deeds and beliefs are they may or may not change my fate and it may or may not be for good or for ill. There's no way of knowing. Contrary to the gamble many pose in reference to a belief in god the most rational gamble is to live as your personal goals dictate without reference to a higher being. To allow a religion to dictate your actions, when doing so doesn't increase your odds, is not rational to me. Especially when acting in accord with your own will is guaranteed at least some reward even if only on a temporary basis.
I'll admit that I don't subscribe to the live and let live philosophy. This leads to secularism and materialism, which is abundant in our modern day culture and which is destroying the fabric of society. When religion is dead, so will civilized society.
So "live and persecute" is the true path to spiritual enlightenment and social unity? When religion was at it's peak, civilised society turned to a murderous rampage many know as the inquisition.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
That's interesting, since many European countries, with far lower rates per-capita of murder and other serious crimes, have much lower rates of religiosity.
Reason I am against Catholicism as a denomination of Christianity. Let's have an example. John and Sarah are a happily married catholic couple and like all couples they enjoy a bit of hanky-panky. One day Sarah found out she was pregnant but this was not intended however she had no choice as Catholics do not allow the use of artificial contraception or having sex for any other reason besides pro-creation (i.e. no pulling out). Some time later she learns that here unborn baby has a growth defect and that continuing the pregnancy will cause both Her and the child to die, she wants to have an abortion, but being Catholics they are strictly opposed to abortion.
Sarah and the unborn baby die because of being forbidden to abort the pregnancy, a pregnancy caused by John being forbidden to use contraception.
That's definitely the right way to believe.
Nemmerle;4738712That's interesting, since many European countries, with far lower rates per-capita of murder and other serious crimes, have much lower rates of religiosity.
Disturbing patterns show that a few years, perhaps a couple decades down the line, most European nations will be suffering from uncontrollable problems.
Penguin, Catholics do not believe in violence or persecution. We do not even believe in the death penalty.