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#41 11 years ago
Monster_user;4948399 One thing I believe in, is that all students should have some form of arts, and mutli-lingual educations. Stratopwn3r, I don't know at what point you abandoned these for a more trade oriented education, but no matter the field an individual needs to harness his creativity in order to improve his field.

I can't stand art though. Painting I downright hate, drawing is ok, but, I'd prefer to do it when I want, not as a class. As for being multi-lingual, I speak 3, English, German and Spanish. I also understand Danish and Dutch fairly well. So I think I'm covered. :)




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#42 11 years ago

Yep, you are covered as for the multi-lingual side.

Art is not simply a visual representation of an image. You have not yet shed light to your feelings about other forms of expression?

Music? Guitar? Flute? Accordion? Trumpet? Sax? Piano? Harp?

Dance? Modern? Classical? Ballet?

Poetry? Rhymes? Riddles? Love letters?

Sculpting? Modern Achitecture (Buildings)? Clay? Pottery? Metal Working? Statues?




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#43 11 years ago

Education in modern times, I believe helps to make a populace that isn't completely helpless and aware of their world, and try to contribute in the work field.

In the past it seemed to be more along the lines of implanting a nation's values in a child and speeding up assimilation.

That being said, some still refuse the opportunity of any form of education due to some problems with anti-intellectualism.

Idiocracy (the film) showed a good example of a world with out any trace of education.




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#44 11 years ago
Monster_user;4948399One thing I believe in, is that all students should have some form of arts, and mutli-lingual educations. Stratopwn3r, I don't know at what point you abandoned these for a more trade oriented education, but no matter the field an individual needs to harness his creativity in order to improve his field.

The majority of work has nothing to do with improving a field. It's procedural copying of an existing template, rather than being creative in nature.

Most people don't have any thoughts worth expressing, they all come from roughly the same background, think in roughly the same terms and solve problems in roughly the same way. There are only a small handful of people in any field actually doing any interesting work, surrounded by hundreds of thousands that are simply minor variations on a common theme that has been shown to them by their betters. It's why the national curriculum is such a dangerous idea, people all learn the same stuff, they all react in the same kinds of way. They're predictable. There's no reason to employ ten people to think about a problem when they're just going to be duplicating effort; you might employ them to think about different aspects of it if you wanted it done quicker but there's no special virtue to the people themselves.

That in mind an arts education would be totally useless to your average worker because they lack the background to do anything interesting with it. The exceptional few who have that background and a desire to use it can grasp what creative tools they need easily enough, while the muck are only ever going to be average. What you get is an employment of the handful that are different, rulling over the thousands that are the same, and an arts education is not going to change that. Give them one and you'll get hundreds of thousands of dreadfully similar, equally pointless, art pieces; variations on a theme handed down to them by their betters.




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#45 11 years ago
Monster_user;4948399 How often do these early relationships affect a person's potential? Usually it would be their University, or Collegiate networks. Unless we are talking about the child's relations with its parents.

Your childhood friendships will generally greatly shape you as a person, which is why I would say it's important for kids to have the chance to hang out, play with, and work with all types of other children. Your bad relationships can be as important as a good one. A child that never has to deal with a bully will never learn to stand up for themselves.

Besides the point, while home schooled children spend more time home bound, they are not entirely without peer bonding experiences. In fact, those experiences are often more wholesome, and trouble free. As many of these bonding experiences are to be had within volunteer organizations, such as the Boy/Girl scouts, 4-H clubs, Habitat for Humanity, Salvation Army projects, etc...

And the world at large is not wholesome and trouble free. Children need to have problems, especially problems with other people, so they can learn how to deal with those problems when they grow older. I think this may very well be one of the most important aspects of primary school, having to deal with people. There were so many people I really didn't get along with at school, but I learned to deal with them, which has proven to be helpful when I have to deal with people at University I don't like.




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#46 11 years ago

Monster_user;4948447Yep, you are covered as for the multi-lingual side.

Art is not simply a visual representation of an image. You have not yet shed light to your feelings about other forms of expression?

Music? Guitar? Flute? Accordion? Trumpet? Sax? Piano? Harp?

Dance? Modern? Classical? Ballet?

Poetry? Rhymes? Riddles? Love letters?

Sculpting? Modern Achitecture (Buildings)? Clay? Pottery? Metal Working? Statues?

I play guitar, and was in a boys chorus (San Francisco Boys Chorus) for 8 years. And I don't do poetry, I just don't find it all that amazing, but, I do write fiction. I am also a horrible dancer and don't find it all that exciting.

Sculpting? Modern Achitecture (Buildings)? Clay? Pottery? Metal Working? Statues?

Modern Architecture is the only one of those that I find appealing. My cousin and I also draw up designs for military aircraft, aircraft carriers, destroyers, tanks and stuff like that. That same cousin and I also do film for the hell of it.




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#47 11 years ago

It's meant to make us good worker ants