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AzH

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#1 10 years ago

I'm tired of this petty squabbling in Iraq between militias and sects and things. I'm bored by the small scale action in Afghanistan. I'm bored by the posturing over Iran and North Korea. I'm bored by the news that Israel is getting whipped again by Hezbollah or Hamas or whoever-the-fuck-else. I'm tired of seeing the military might of the Great United States go to waste on small fry small time skirmishes with insurgents and I'm sick of the to-ing and fro-ing between Israel and Syria. That Russia has started long range bomber patrols is less newsworthy than Britney having no knickers on and I feel the need for some action.

If there is going to be a major large scale war in the near future who will be be between, what will it be over, and what will be the overall result? Work on the basis that the conflict will remain conventional and not escalate to nuclear weapons.

Let's go to war!!




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#2 10 years ago
AzH;3957907I'm tired of this petty squabbling in Iraq between militias and sects and things. I'm bored by the small scale action in Afghanistan. I'm bored by the posturing over Iran and North Korea. I'm bored by the news that Israel is getting whipped again by Hezbollah or Hamas or whoever-the-fuck-else. I'm tired of seeing the military might of the Great United States go to waste on small fry small time skirmishes with insurgents and I'm sick of the to-ing and fro-ing between Israel and Syria. That Russia has started long range bomber patrols is less newsworthy than Britney having no knickers on and I feel the need for some action. If there is going to be a major large scale war in the near future who will be be between, what will it be over, and what will be the overall result? Work on the basis that the conflict will remain conventional and not escalate to nuclear weapons. Let's go to war!!

My mate went to Afganistan, he ended up getting a peice of RPG shratnal in his leg which is the reason why he is on leave. The British army themselfs are killing around 1-2k of Milita a month. He was ambushed on a patrol near a Village, they fought the Afgans Milita untill they ran out of Ammuniction (There was that many of them) they had to fix bayonets. He was a Medic and rescued 2 of his pals who had been shot, one whom took a scim of a RPG to the chest (Somehow he survived being that body armour stuff, it cant normaly take on of those). The Afgan Milita retreated and the British called in air support, flatening the city in seconds (the buildings are made from sand) The Afgan's upon retreating left huge ammo dumps of ammunition, AK 47's etc, this just shows you how determined these guys are. There was no good war, or bad war. Anyway. I see that peoples intelligens has become less and less through the years, more concerned about what people are waring then people dying. The Media controls certain citizens and the Government needs to put some law against the Media, well talking Bollocks (Nonsense) really.




Tas

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#3 10 years ago

War is terrible.

But i cannot deny the fact that combat is very exciting to watch, and indeed the "war" in Iraq is boring. How many times do we have to watch American soldiers unload tons of SAW ammo, Javs and assorted rifles into distant buildings occupied by invisible enemies?

As for a possible war... the armies with the cool stuff only pick on weaker foes. But a European coalition VS China would be *very* interesting in theory.

"we" would have a tech advantage for the most part, but no stealth h4x0rz like the US. Without shock and awe it would be a good ol fashioned combined arms party.




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#4 10 years ago

I agree. "World War III will be a guerilla information war, with no division between military and civilian participation." - Marshall Mcluhan




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#5 10 years ago

While a war between any Western nation and China would be facinating, it's incredibly unlikely. Too much of the well-being of China's economy rests in the purchasing power of Western nations.




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#6 10 years ago
marvinmatthew;3957960While a war between any Western nation and China would be facinating, it's incredibly unlikely. Too much of the well-being of China's economy rests in the purchasing power of Western nations.

And likewise.

As globalisation increases, the likelihood of another major war decreases. Already, all of the major powers are allied, or at the very least too dependant on each other to break up the love party. Besides that, especially for somebody with a newborn baby, desiring a major global conflict is a little immature and a lot short-sighted...




AzH

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#7 10 years ago
Mr. Matt;3957967Besides that, especially for somebody with a newborn baby, desiring a major global conflict is a little immature and a lot short-sighted...

Oh jeez, unbunch them. ;) I was trying to get a discussion going regarding a potential conflict. I've been reading too much Tom Clancy.




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#8 10 years ago

Russia vs US, old Red versus Blue action there. Puten is positioning himself to become a full dictator and the missile defense program isn't extending to Russia, only everybody else; so communist Russia + Psycho Puten + a Reason means either a pissing contest or a war, or both. Sounds a lot like the scenario from a Tom Clancy game (End War), but it's a lot closer to now than EW's scenario with super-ballistic satellites capable of obliterating entire cities, 50 years from now.

In 40 years, the oil will be officially starting to go dry and that means developing nations like China and India will have to acquire more and more sources to perpetuate their economic steamroll effect. So if Russia were to go to war, I can see China joining them without more than 2 years of hesitation given that they see whats coming in a few decades for them. The opportunity for China to expand and acquire resources for some potential sanction to stop them. In a communist (or the real life closest equivalent) nation, money is needed to project a "prosperous" light on a country, and to import items from other nations. Given that China mostly exports goods to just about everyone and has few imports besides fuel, an economic depression wouldn't be such a major ordeal; people work or they die, and China's government has repeatedly shown how much they care about the individual or even whole rural communities, they don't.

So Russia invades Eastern Europe and China makes excursions westward towards the middle East attempting to fund opposing factions (like those in Iraq, for example) to wipe out as much potential resistance as possible before being welcomed in by the remains of all sides, thinking China "was on their side). After this China would presumably back stab all factions and take control of the remaining oil reserves. America would offer support to Europe (so we can save your arses, a THIRD time :P ), but I doubt we'd get involved with the Chinese conflict unless we still have an investment in Iraq at that point, in which case we might leave out of fear, given we have a weak leader at such a time. Israel would probably sit back till China got close to their territory, that way China removes most of their old enemies and gets their hands dirty with civilian casualties rather than them. China might make big investments to try and start a major war between HAMAS and Israel to try and eliminate the potential roadblock there or force Israel into a position in which they have to get their hands dirty, so that they and Israel seem on similar levels to the international community.




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#9 10 years ago
Vasili;3957918My mate went to Afganistan, he ended up getting a peice of RPG shratnal in his leg which is the reason why he is on leave. The British army themselfs are killing around 1-2k of Milita a month. He was ambushed on a patrol near a Village, they fought the Afgans Milita untill they ran out of Ammuniction (There was that many of them) they had to fix bayonets. He was a Medic and rescued 2 of his pals who had been shot, one whom took a scim of a RPG to the chest (Somehow he survived being that body armour stuff, it cant normaly take on of those). The Afgan Milita retreated and the British called in air support, flatening the city in seconds (the buildings are made from sand) The Afgan's upon retreating left huge ammo dumps of ammunition, AK 47's etc, this just shows you how determined these guys are. There was no good war, or bad war. Anyway. I see that peoples intelligens has become less and less through the years, more concerned about what people are waring then people dying. The Media controls certain citizens and the Government needs to put some law against the Media, well talking Bollocks (Nonsense) really.

Should he get the highest medal in England maybe?




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#10 10 years ago

I say Germany and Eastern Europe vs. Everybody else hey, they were the main fighters of WW1 and they started WW2, should we not expect them to start WW3? Imagine Russia attacks China and Asia, while the rest of eastern europe battles Western Europe And we say screw you all we aint fightin another WW