What would our founding fathers say? 17 replies

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#1 9 years ago

What do you think our founding fathers would say about the things that are going on right now? Would they think we're on the right track, off to a slow start, etc. What do you think?

I think that what we've got isn't quite their idea of how everything should be, but then again I don't know that much about it.




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#2 9 years ago

I think they would be semi frustrated. (especially that George Washington said to stay out of foreign affairs, and there goes George Bush bombing Iraq)




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#3 9 years ago

I think they'd be pretty pissed off.


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#4 9 years ago
computernerd;5008916I think they'd be pretty pissed off.

That's an understatement, they'd be like "WTF happened to our America?"

And some of them would be confused about the free blacks. =p




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#5 9 years ago

thecheeseman;5008900What do you think our founding fathers would say about the things that are going on right now? Would they think we're on the right track, off to a slow start, etc. What do you think?

I think that what we've got isn't quite their idea of how everything should be, but then again I don't know that much about it.

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#6 9 years ago

IMO we've exercised what Washington wished in his farewell address to its fullest extent, it is near impossible to stay out of foreign affairs today, it was hard to do that in there day, as after all as long as we have any relations with that country, we will be a potential target. Then there's the single party suggestion, really at this point not many people would like that idea, its very "Un-American"




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#7 9 years ago
Anson357;5008922That's an understatement, they'd be like "WTF happened to our America?" And some of them would be confused about the free blacks. =p

:agreed




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#8 9 years ago
thecheeseman;5008900What do you think our founding fathers would say about the things that are going on right now?

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#9 9 years ago

I wonder if they'd wonder what happened to Modest America. Supposedly, a rising tide lifts all boats, but unfortunately the waves are becoming more violent. Many in the middle class have been bumped up to the upper class, while some have dropped to the lower, which results (needless to say) in an overall weak middle class.

A growing gap between the rich and the poor, perhaps due to large companies having too much business and too little competition.

A loss of the public sense of responsibility for their country, and an overall decline in people's faith in the government (ie, doubts concerning it's motives and corruption), hence generally low voter turnouts.

Decline of strong families. It's almost too expensive and even "risky" to have a family without the proper education, job, and luck, and it's really hard to have a strong, happy family when your stuck in a corporate office working all day every day and never see your kids (unless, perhaps, you work for a current healthcare company...)

My modest America, I mean an America where the "American Dream" can also be being able to live a happy life in a strong middle class. Unfortunately (or is it a good thing?), job's demand more education, but financial aid and even general motivation for many sucks. Too many people drop out of highschool, which puts them in a BAD place.




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#10 9 years ago

They'd probably wonder why all the blacks are walking around freely.

Edit: I didn't read the rest of the thread. My statement was an independent development. But it supposed to make the point that our forefather's weren't exactly the greatest people in history. We tend to ignore the negative aspects and hone in on the positives.

Also, it depends what forefather you mean. George Washington would probably be disappointed at the concept of the political party, Jefferson would hate how powerful the federal government has become, while someone like Hamilton probably would think we were doin' fine.




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