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Mihail VIP Member

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#181 14 years ago
!moofThe first Gulf War was meant to do two things: 1. Stop Saddam's invasion of Kuwait 2. Stop Saddam's general aggression in the MidEast. All objectives were completed with huge international support and few casualties. Now that's a victory.

Infact alot of citizens of iraq died as a result of desert storm.




!moof

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#182 14 years ago

DeaditeDanWell, few casualties for the Coalition.

Way too many Iraqi civillians died.

Plus the West provoked it. Saddam had warned Kuwait to face military action if it didn't force Kuwaiti oil companies to stop drilling on Iraqi soil, and they refused. The State Department told Iraq if they took action we'd see it as a 'regional matter' and not become involved.

The Gulf War was a set-up from start to finish.

Remember, the U.S. military has had plans drawn up since the oil embargo in '73 to seize all of the Persian Gulf oil fields.

1. Yes, many Iraqis died, but few civvies died. The first Gulf War was almost completely military. The only civilian dealths were a result of bombing, and they were relatively few.

2. The West did not provoke it. Iraq claimed that Kuwait had stolen oil from Iraq, but the area disputed was not established as Iraqi or Kuwaiti. Saudi-mediated talks between Iraq and Kuwait held at Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, collapsed when Kuwait refused Iraq's demands, which included reduction in Kuwaiti oil production, compensation of $2.5 billion for oil produced in disputed territory, forgiveness by Kuwait of about $20 billion in debts accumulated during war with Iran, control of Bubiyan and Warba islands giving Iraq direct access to Persian Gulf for its oil exports. Kuwait refused these exorbitant terms, so Iraq invaded Kuwait. The Arab League denounced it, as did the US, the USSR, and the UN. Embargoes, then war resulted.

3. We said that it was a regional matter. We didn't say we wouldn't get involved. When we said that the Iraq-Kuwait dispute was regional he falsely assumed it was a go-ahead to do as he wished.

4. How many times must I repeat this: The U.S. military has plans for every imaginable situation. 99% of the plans are locked in a filing cabinet until they become wholly outdated, when new plans are drawn up.




vladtemplar

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#183 14 years ago

Whats done is done. Its history. We are in Iraq, as much as it sucks. Now we need to figure out where the country will be in 20-30 years. I just can not see an American version of democracy working in any Middle-Eastern countries.




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#184 14 years ago

American democracy won't work there without a paradigm shift. The way to start this shift is to stop pissing Arabs off, let them in on things, and bombard them with propaganda.




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#185 14 years ago
!moof1. Yes, many Iraqis died, but few civvies died. The first Gulf War was almost completely military. The only civilian dealths were a result of bombing, and they were relatively few. 2. The West did not provoke it. Iraq claimed that Kuwait had stolen oil from Iraq, but the area disputed was not established as Iraqi or Kuwaiti. Saudi-mediated talks between Iraq and Kuwait held at Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, collapsed when Kuwait refused Iraq's demands, which included reduction in Kuwaiti oil production, compensation of $2.5 billion for oil produced in disputed territory, forgiveness by Kuwait of about $20 billion in debts accumulated during war with Iran, control of Bubiyan and Warba islands giving Iraq direct access to Persian Gulf for its oil exports. Kuwait refused these exorbitant terms, so Iraq invaded Kuwait. The Arab League denounced it, as did the US, the USSR, and the UN. Embargoes, then war resulted. 3. We said that it was a regional matter. We didn't say we wouldn't get involved. When we said that the Iraq-Kuwait dispute was regional he falsely assumed it was a go-ahead to do as he wished. 4. How many times must I repeat this: The U.S. military has plans for every imaginable situation. 99% of the plans are locked in a filing cabinet until they become wholly outdated, when new plans are drawn up.

Moof, Alot of civilians died, and alot more died as a result of them being shut out to the rest of the world. Due to sanctions. About 1.5 million non-combatants died due to desert storm.




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#186 14 years ago

I agree, it was genocide. America and it's allies bombed water treatment plans, and many other civilian infrastructure, and then slapped on sanctions which only strengthened the Hussein regime and prevented them from properly re-building their infrastructure or getting the medicine they needed. Plus the use of DU munitions resulted in a 400% increase in cancer among children.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEADS PEOPLE:

THE WEST HAS COMMITTED GENOCIDE THAT HAS KILLED OVER ONE MILLION IRAQIS OVER THE LAST 13 YEARS




vladtemplar

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#187 14 years ago

We need to build American fast-food places there, hire locals. Build Wal-Marts. Give out free Cokes




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#188 14 years ago

what, no 7-11's? no Wa-Wa's?




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#189 14 years ago

lol vladtemplar, we do have Pizza hut, Mcdonalds, KFC and lots and lots of fast food chains in arab countries(i know they do in egypt [masr]). and lots of malls. i know an american that moved there 7 months ago, he is planning on staying there.

about Kuwait stealing oil, ill have to say it was only a lie. and just so people know, Kwaities are the most disliked arabs in the middle east.

If you guys want propaganda to work, show how good you can be. last year i went to egypt, people think that american democracy is bombing people, telling israel to kill anyone it wants, torture people, hate arabs, show pron on television, etc. thats why Arabs dont like america so much.




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#190 14 years ago

Well, DarthMaul, I already knew Kuwaiti's are not like.

But I know a fellow who is from Kuwait, and he is the one who told me about the oil companies stealing oil from Iraq, so obviously, he believed it.

However he went on and on about how much he hates the Amir of Kuwait, so perhaps he rooted for Saddam because he hated the Amir so much? I don't know.