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#41 12 years ago

al gore would probably waist all of our money on trying to help stop global warming and stuff




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#42 12 years ago

if I had to choose a democrat DEFINATLY Barack Obama.

if I had to choose a republican, then I would mos tlikely go with John McCain.




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#43 12 years ago

Democrats = Guaranteed raise in taxes.

Every time a democrat goes into office they raise taxes and slow down the economy. They keep doing it until the election year when they lower taxes just long enough to make everyone happy and give the economy a little boost so they can get reelected and afterwards raise taxes again.

One might ask what do they do with all this tax revenue? The answer is they pork barrel it. It all goes into little projects across the nation to help make the party's congressmen look good. That way they can get reelected too.




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#44 12 years ago
Bob L. ScrachyOne might ask what do they do with all this tax revenue? The answer is they pork barrel it. It all goes into little projects across the nation to help make the party's congressmen look good. That way they can get reelected too.

How about useful national issues like education and health care? It's not like the Republicans wouldn't be issuing "pork barrel" around.




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#45 12 years ago

Health Care? The US gov won't go for it, most we do is help out the elderly with health care and even that sucks for them. It costs too much for it to be done without a massive tax increase that people won't stand for. Medical insurance is ussualy given through the employer of a person.

Education... Okay this could be improved upon alot, but nomatter who is in, Dems or Repubs, it always stays the same, add a test, take away a test, education always works through paper and pencil and never through application. More money can be given to it, but ussualy it just goes towards keeping teachers happy with increased salaries and improving the sports teams. The school I go to spent a few million on turf and sand for the football field and new lacross/field hockey areas. Meanwhile teachers complain about paper shortages and outdated computers (the photoshop class had Windows 98 computers with XP installed and 6 gig hard drives, meaning that they were worthless because as soon as it came time to save work, the students started running out of space. XP and Photoshop competing for a couple hundred megs of ram, jerry rigged onto the motherboard wasn't such a great situation either. Only after 15 out of 22 computers went down did they consider new computers, and now that class actualy has them. The old computers are going to be chucked (I would prefer obliterated with base ball bats, clubs, machine guns, grenades, TNT, cherry bombs, Liquid nitrogen, and finally a good old steel toed kick to the dumpster) or sent over to the art department for use (photoshop doesn't count as an art class, or any sort of nessisary credit class for students, not even a technology credit) as the art department's computers are running primarily on Intel Optitron with a few Intel 1s (before even Optitron, which was the precurssor to Pentium) and are essentialy suicidal chipsets waiting to be put out of their misery.

When you send money to a school, I suppose whats then important is directing how it is spent.




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#46 12 years ago

Relander;3554140How about useful national issues like education and health care? It's not like the Republicans wouldn't be issuing "pork barrel" around.[/quote]

Look at america's educational system. It hasn't been overhauled in years. Some schools can't get enough money to fix the plumbing. Kids graduate without being able to read.

There is no Healthcare system. The only way a poor person can get healthcare is by walking into the emergency room. I KNOW this, i'm poor. I also know that if i became a french citizen they would issue me a little card and I could get everything from kaopectate to heart surgery paid for by the french government.

Tell me what comes to your mind when you start coughing. Do you think man i have to get a doctor's appointment? Or do you think man that doctor charges an arm and a leg?

[quote=Relander;3554140]It's not like the Republicans wouldn't be issuing "pork barrel" around.

Yes republicans pork barrel too, BUT the nature of a republican is to be conservative. The nature of a conservative is to be cautious and avoiding excess. So in theory they don't do it as much. Where as with democrats its a guaranteed done deal.




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#47 12 years ago

Relander;3554140How about useful national issues like education and health care? It's not like the Republicans wouldn't be issuing "pork barrel" around.[/quote]

Look at america's educational system. It hasn't been overhauled in years. Some schools can't get enough money to fix the plumbing. Kids graduate without being able to read.

There is no Healthcare system. The only way a poor person can get healthcare is by walking into the emergency room. I KNOW this, i'm poor. I also know that if i became a french citizen they would issue me a little card and I could get everything from kaopectate to heart surgery paid for by the french government.

Tell me what comes to your mind when you start coughing. Do you think man i have to get a doctor's appointment? Or do you think man that doctor charges an arm and a leg?

[quote=Relander;3554140]It's not like the Republicans wouldn't be issuing "pork barrel" around.

Yes republicans pork barrel too, BUT the nature of a republican is to be conservative. The nature of a conservative is to be cautious and avoiding excess. So in theory they don't do it as much. Where as with democrats its a guaranteed done deal.




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#48 12 years ago

Chemix2It costs too much for it to be done without a massive tax increase that people won't stand for. Medical insurance is ussualy given through the employer of a person.[/quote] However tax increases isn't the only solution, you can also cut funding from other places though environmental & energy taxes wouldn't be that terrible idea if compensated & executed properly. How about cutting from military by reducing huge nuclear arsenal, shutting down oversea garrisons (like in Germany), cut army bureaucracy & over-lapping of interests and give up some wonder programs like robot soldiers and future space weapons. Subsidies for oil industry & major companies can be rationalized and government bureaucracy reduced. Of course it's not so easy as it sounds but you have to start from somewhere.

chool, I suppose whats then important is directing how it is spent.

Agreed, funding needs adequate supervision and reciprocity.

[quote=Bob L. Scrachy]Tell me what comes to your mind when you start coughing. Do you think man i have to get a doctor's appointment? Or do you think man that doctor charges an arm and a leg?

I know the poor condition of the US health care and especially education but the Democrats are even trying to make it better like Clinton's health care reform at his first term. For Obama health care is one of the main themes.

Yes republicans pork barrel too, BUT the nature of a republican is to be conservative. The nature of a conservative is to be cautious and avoiding excess. So in theory they don't do it as much. Where as with democrats its a guaranteed done deal.

However party platform & ideology aren't enough but what matters the most is the practice. During 2000-2006 the Republicans have used money without much caution & accountability and not just on the war in Iraq. Currently it seems that the Republicans are now somewhat fiscally liberal where as the Democrats are more fiscally conservatives.




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#49 12 years ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/25/us/politics/25secret.html?ei=5065&en=1e92d10e8c647cf1&ex=1172984400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Heh, the Christian Right is struggling to find a candidate intolerant enough for them. I wish that someone would show them the Constitution Party.

If Clinton gets chosen (and perhaps McCain or Giuliani), then it should be a good year for the third parties.




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#50 12 years ago

Is there a Presidential candidate that supports the total removal of healthcare, public education, social security, and all other programs besides a defensive military, police departments, and fire departments? I'd vote for him.