Who has had the most influence on the world we live in today? 97 replies

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AzH

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#1 14 years ago

I had this discussion with my Father one evening, we were drinking and it got pretty heated.

Now, Daddy is a born again christian, and he claimed that Jesus is the man who has had the most influence on the lives of the people of this planet. Basically, his argument went; Jesus died for us. He took away all our sins and we were forgiven, so that now, each man woman and child is alive because Jesus died. It was some sort of bullshit like that anyway, I was pretty drunk so the details don't register as coherently as they once did.

Now, I suppose I was pretty contraversial in my choice. Seeing as this was "Who has had the most influence on the world we live in today", I chose Hitler. Suffice to say, Daddy was pretty offended that I thought a 20th Century tyrant had more influence on all of us than the 'Son of God'.

So, my question is, who do you think is the most influential person ever? Who has done more to shape our world and our lives than any other?

Discuss.




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#2 14 years ago

Hitler did with no doubt. He helped create a better peace in the world.




perry07

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#3 14 years ago

I sat here and clicked on "New Posts" since i woke up.




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#4 14 years ago

Hmm, good question

*thinks for ten minutes*

Man this is too deep for me...

Today I guess Bush has most influence but the most influential person ever...I have no idea

[EDIT] Cambo, stop spamming, retard




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#5 14 years ago

I would say Muhammed. Without Muhammed there would not have been the uniting of Bedouin tribes, nor the Islamic Empire whose scientists, doctors and mathematicians invented many things we still use today ie: Algebra. Without the Muslims, early Greek texts may not have been translated into Arabic then to Western European languages, without this, these texts may have been entirely lost.

In a close second would be Jesus, Julius Caesar and last but not least, Hitler.




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#6 14 years ago

God/Allah/Jahve; whatever you choose to call him/her. Whether you believe in the divine or not, this figure has shaped the lives of people all over the world for the last 5,000 years. God, I just stick with that name, has been the subject of art, literature, religion (of course) and in essence the lives of ordinary humans. Furthermore, God has also been the turning point in conflicts ever since Moses came down from Mount Sinai with some stones and said 'Ladies and Gents, this is the real McCoy'. Even today in this second age of Enlightenment, humans kill other humans in the name of God over who is the best worshipper.




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#7 14 years ago

Hmm let me think... *thinks* Wel i was about going to say "Charles Babbage" babbage.jpg because he invented one of the first "computers" (and we can't do without them these days): babbage.gif But if babbage didn't infend the computer some other person would.. so i will have to choose an other person. *thinks* well, probably hitler, because of him we had WW2 and that brought huge differences to this world: the way we make war, technolgie, relations with countries and races, etc. He has without a doubt has a very large influence on history so I would vote for Adolf Hitler. If you think that bush influenced the world you would be better of by picking Osama bin Laden!




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#8 14 years ago
Großadmiral Dönitz well, probally hitler, because of him we had WW2 and that brought huge differences to this world: the way we make war, technolgie, relations with countries and races, etc. He has without a doubt has a very large influence on history so I would vote for Adolf Hitler.

Also, consider the millions of people who lost their lives because of this one man. Millions.




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#9 14 years ago

we could also get into the counter-factual history and say that if Franz Ferdinand hadn't been assasinated, the First World War had not broken out and therefore Germany might not have been in a state so vulnrable to Fascim (wich was the most important factor for the Second World War). Ergo: the Serbian nationalist who shot the Crown prince of Austria-Hungary is the most important figure in (modern) history.




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#10 14 years ago
'Dreadnought[DK']we could also get into the counter-factual history and say that if Franz Ferdinand hadn't been assasinated, the First World War had not broken out and therefore Germany might not have been in a state so vulnrable to Fascim (wich was the most important factor for the Second World War). Ergo: the Serbian nationalist who shot the Crown prince of Austria-Hungary is the most important figure in (modern) history.

But if we go that far back we could say that the mother of the Serbian nationalist (who shot the Crown prince of Austria-Hungary) is the most important figure in (modern) history. Or her mother or... Just look at the things in the way the happened and are written down in the history books: maybe WW1 would have errupted around 1914 but later in the 20th century? and what would happened? we don't know and we won't be able to tell.