In interesting question came to me a couple of days ago. My mom got a virus on her computer and it is a nasty one becuase it can't be removed without destroying her operating system. My uncle, who is really literate with computers, is going to reformat mom's hard drive. He called me on that Friday after mom called me and told me about her computer because they were looking for a Windows XP disk so they can replace the OS on mom's computer (and mom called me earler about the same thing). While we were talking, I asked him "Who still makes the viruses these days? Why doesn't the government or whoever find these people and deal with them instead of us having to buy antivirus software and subscriptions to updates in order to protect us from these viruses." (not verbatim). He said that the manufacturers of the antivirus software were putting these viruses out so that people will buy their products and subscriptions for anti-virus protection. He did bring up an interesting, though not suprising point. I have not heard of any hackers being arrested for making viruses lately (or of hackers period)(though I do not watch the news much). It is as if they fell off the face of the earth, yet their viruses remain and new ones are popping up ever day. Really, would hackers create viruses just to inconvenience people. If they can make viruses like that, you would think that they would instead make viruses to do something major like disrupt a major corporation's computer network to steal from them or because they were mad at them, or that they would use them for identity theft or something (though spyware does a real good job at this; and I have heard of hackers getting info from people through this, so maybe they are still out there). Maybe they are too smart to realise that if they tried something like that, they would likely get caught and face criminal charges. But since alot of viruses seem to be put out there for no real reason but to inconvenience people, it does not seem logical (though they may be following logic) that these people would send out randon inconveniece viruses for the heck of it. But it does seem logical that the antivirus software makers would send out random inconvenience viruses for the purpose of making money by forcing people to buy their software so that the consumers will not get the viruses that the antivirus software manufacturers are sending out. What do you think. Who makes the viruses these days? Random hackers who are doing it for fun or antivirus corporations trying to increase their profits?
More often than not they are made my people experimenting with things then released into the wild by accident. Often when programming something you might think, 'hey if i just modified this it would be able to detect if the computer has X software installed' then that might escalate into noticing that if you do X to the software it will not work anymore and allow your program to access other programs. Or people will notice a security hole in a cetain piece of software and program a virus to exploit it... just because they can. Usually people who release viruses defend their actions by claiming they did it to raise awareness for a particular security hole, but i think in reality they enjoy 'beating the system' more than proving to a company their software is not as secure as they claim it to be. It would be stupid for companies such as symantec to regularly release viruses as the updates to deal with new threats is free and they will be the ones paying for the bandwidth bieng used by the millions of customers downloading them.
Victim of Forgotten HopeForum bystander
26th April 2004
Hackers or some idiots who want to piss everyone off.
Feel the fire
26th February 2004
Well a few of the big nasty viruses around, the guys who made it have been found and charged. I don't think antivirus corporations would make them to force people into buying there software.
Also if an antivirus corporation did make them, they would make there programs so they can remove the virus them with ease, not just say it cant be removed to cleaned like it does a lot of times.
metal_militiaIt would be stupid for companies such as symantec to regularly release viruses as the updates to deal with new threats is free and they will be the ones paying for the bandwidth bieng used by the millions of customers downloading them.
Actually, Symantec and McAfee make you buy a subscription every year to get more virus updates. (I don't know if PC-Cillin does this or not). And I think that they only give you a free trial subscription of only 3 months for software/virus definition updates after you buy their software and then you have to buy a 1 year subscription to get additional updates/antivrus definitions (well, maybe the software updates are free). The only exception is if your company or school has a liscence or something with one of these companies, in which then you would get their software free (maybe) and their update sevice subscriptions free indefinitely (they won't ask you to renew them (maybe)). In my case, Clemson has a license with McAfee so everyone on campus can get their latest software (as long as you are in school) and unlimited (I think) updates indefinitely (or as long as you are in school).
Good job i pirated it then isnt it :p
Did you pirate the updates as well?
yep, well i just update NAV every so often just like you would with a retail copy.
PE(A)CE and LOV(E)
22nd February 2005
well i think some manufacturers actually do make some viruses and shit jsut to make $$$......ppl these days do anything for mula.
GF's Cognitive Psychologist
13th April 2004
Attention seekers, they might be quite friendly when there not developing viruses. I know people who develop key loggers, then blackmail the people for going on porn and stuff. They are actaully very loyal friends to me.