Who was the better american president: Clinton or Bush? 173 replies

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Blood n Guts

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#161 14 years ago
IR15HDuring the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, the U.S. enjoyed more peace and economic well being than at any time in its history. He was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win a second term. He could point to the lowest unemployment rate in modern times, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the highest home ownership in the country's history, dropping crime rates in many places, and reduced welfare roles.

Unemployment under Clinton was 5.6%. Under Bush it has so far hovered around that same mark. Last year the national average was actually 5.5%. Clinton did not create the prosperity he presided over; he contributed to the end of the boom that started under Reagan. Crediting Clinton entirely for that prosperity is like crediting Truman for the US victory in WWII or crediting Harding for the prosperity in the 20s. Truman only was president for the last 4 months of the war, and Harding was inept and presided over an extremely corrupt administration which probably hastened the coming of the great depression; he certainly did not create prosperity, he only presided over it. The case with Clinton and prosperity isn't that extreme, he presided over the last 7 years of the boom (about 1/3rd of its length), and, even though his tax increases slowed the economy down slightly, I don't think his policies lead to the recession at the end of his term. Recessions are natural and inevitable.

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You'd be niave to think Bush has never lied, all politians do, it seems to be part of their jobs.

Politicians lie, our constitution even gives congressmen amnesty from slander charges during a house or senate session. Clinton lied under oath while on trial for sexual harassment. The first is legal, the second is a crime, perjury, a felony that carries a sentence of 3-10 years.[/COLOR]




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#162 14 years ago
Blood n GutsUnemployment under Clinton was 5.6%. Under Bush it has so far hovered around that same mark. Last year the national average was actually 5.5%. Clinton did not create the prosperity he presided over; he contributed to the end of the boom that started under Reagan. Crediting Clinton entirely for that prosperity is like crediting Truman for the US victory in WWII or crediting Harding for the prosperity in the 20s. Truman only was president for the last 4 months of the war, and Harding was inept and presided over an extremely corrupt administration which probably hastened the coming of the great depression; he certainly did not create prosperity, he only presided over it. The case with Clinton and prosperity isn't that extreme, he presided over the last 7 years of the boom (about 1/3rd of its length), and, even though his tax increases slowed the economy down slightly, I don't think his policies lead to the recession at the end of his term. Recessions are natural and inevitable. [COLOR=black]Politicians lie, our constitution even gives congressmen amnesty from slander charges during a house or senate session. Clinton lied under oath while on trial for sexual harassment. The first is legal, the second is a crime, perjury, a felony that carries a sentence of 3-10 years.[/COLOR]

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#163 14 years ago

for all those who support the war i would like to see you patroling iraq in 120+F. degrees. liveing conditions in iraq are worse. a bombing about everyday. the humvees are not fully armored and dount have air conditioning. i know it was hard under saddam for the iraqi people and how he killed some of them. but under his power he didnt have these bombing and gunfight in cities. the only reason to go to iraq was to make money. cheney has the company haliberton that is rebuilding iraq. also bush wanted to take over the oil fields of iraq. bush dousnt care about the people of iraq. while troops are dieing and being shot at in 120 degree weather, polititions are wondering if they should up armor the humvees and how much they are willing to spend on the soildier aquipment. and dount bring up somalia. it was a preacekeeping opperation to stop the genocide but it got ugly because of the rebels numbers. THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ. stop watching FOX news and turn on something like CNN or MSNBC. has highest number of confused watchers. if you are smart you would read this http://www.alternet.org/story/16892 if your thinking clinton should of taken out osama then maybe we should of never given him weapons to fight the russians and there would be no twin towers attack. the russians would take over afganistan and make it a modern country with not osama.




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#164 14 years ago

To me bush JR is the best president because I agree with what he does.




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#165 14 years ago

Oh God, he found the Pub.

You SUCK AT LIFE.

I already did enlist in the Army as an infantryman, you tool. My uncle is serving his second tour as a squad leader in Iraq, he served his first in one of the mechanized units spearheading the drive into Iraq. Our Humvees are armored against small arms fire, no shit. RPGs and IEDs? Impossible.

He killed 250,000 people during his rule, that is not some. That is what we educated people call genocide.

That contract awarded to Haliburten was given out ten years ago, you twit.

The Democrats, like you, are the ones who say they do not want to spend money on new military technologies and armor. Practice what you preach.

You do know that the price of oil has gone up dramatically since 2003? And that the oil fields are not being run by Americans? Not a single fucking one!

Somalia got ugly because Clinton is retarded, pure and simple. Even Jeffro, the most knowledgeable liberal around here, knows that Somalia's failure was because of Clinton.

Iraq sold them or hid them. Shit, in 2000 Iraqi scientists defected to the US and confirmed our suspisions. Again, you are wrong.

You are right, CNN and MSNBC does have the highest number of confused viewers.

We did not give anything more than small arms and FIM-92A Stingers to the mujahideen fighters. This makes them want to attack us? Your logic is totally lacking, at absolute best. At worst, you are a plain retard.

OH MY GOD! THE RUSSIANS WERE PROTECTING AN UNPOPULAR COMMUNIST PUPPET GOVERNMENT! YOU THINK THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THEM MODERN? LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STATES LIKE KASAKHSTAN! Shit, do you even know where that IS?!

You are truly pathetic.




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#166 14 years ago

calm down..... you must admit bush jr is one of the worst presidents. also i said FOX news has the highest number of confused viewers.(read the article in the link) communism is a popular form of govenment,look at china. china kills the most people of any country. why dount we invade them? im not democrat and im not republican. why arnt we going after osama with the full force of the US army. iraq did not cause 9/11. also i have a question. why is iraq still partialy in the stoneage?




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#167 14 years ago

Blood n GutsUnemployment under Clinton was 5.6%. Under Bush it has so far hovered around that same mark. Last year the national average was actually 5.5%. Clinton did not create the prosperity he presided over; he contributed to the end of the boom that started under Reagan. Crediting Clinton entirely for that prosperity is like crediting Truman for the US victory in WWII or crediting Harding for the prosperity in the 20s. Truman only was president for the last 4 months of the war, and Harding was inept and presided over an extremely corrupt administration which probably hastened the coming of the great depression; he certainly did not create prosperity, he only presided over it. The case with Clinton and prosperity isn't that extreme, he presided over the last 7 years of the boom (about 1/3rd of its length), and, even though his tax increases slowed the economy down slightly, I don't think his policies lead to the recession at the end of his term. Recessions are natural and inevitable. [/QUOTE]

Damn good post. Prepare for red karma from the left.

The recession came when all of Clinton's programs' bills came...and they all came due when Bush became President. Everyone knew they would. (I mean, every intelligent person knew they would). So, combined with 9/11, we fell into a light recession.

Czech special forcesfor all those who support the war i would like to see you patroling iraq in 120+F. degrees. [/QUOTE] Hello there t00l we have people on these forums who are enlisted and are going to Iraq soon, so your petty "why dont you try it" argument will NOT work.

Czech special forces liveing conditions in iraq are worse. a bombing about everyday. the humvees are not fully armored and dount have air conditioning. [/QUOTE] Oh really? Wow, thanks for telling all of us that information which none of us knew! Thank god for you!

Czech special forces the only reason to go to iraq was to make money. cheney has the company haliberton that is rebuilding iraq. also bush wanted to take over the oil fields of iraq. [/QUOTE] See you can say that all you want. You cant prove any of it. [QUOTE=Czech special forces] bush dousnt care about the people of iraq. while troops are dieing and being shot at in 120 degree weather.

Being shot at kinda sucks nomatter the temperature...

[QUOTE=Czech special forces]THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ.

Again, thank god for Mr. Intel here. [QUOTE=Czech special forces] stop watching FOX news and turn on something like CNN or MSNBC.

Yes heaven forbid we get real news, we must have our liberalized news!

And it actually shows that Fox news continually kills every other news station in ratings, so even if it is 'republican', its apparently satisfying enough people. Mabey because us repubs dont believe that America is the evil country that liberals do? Is that why you hate Fox news so much?

[QUOTE=Czech special forces] if your thinking clinton should of taken out osama then maybe we should of never given him weapons to fight the russians and there would be no twin towers attack. the russians would take over afganistan and make it a modern country with not osama.

If Russia had taken Afghanistan it would still be the dirtball it is right now.




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#168 14 years ago
czech speacial forcescalm down..... you must admit bush jr is one of the worst presidents. also i said FOX news has the highest number of confused viewers.(read the article in the link) communism is a popular form of govenment,look at china. china kills the most people of any country. why dount we invade them? im not democrat and im not republican. why arnt we going after osama with the full force of the US army. iraq did not cause 9/11. also i have a question. why is iraq still partialy in the stoneage?

You are a total, undeniable, moron. One who should have his testicles removed so as to not pass on this terrible diease to future generations.

But thats just my opinon.




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#169 14 years ago
czech speacial forcescalm down..... you must admit bush jr is one of the worst presidents. also i said FOX news has the highest number of confused viewers.(read the article in the link) communism is a popular form of govenment,look at china. china kills the most people of any country. why dount we invade them? im not democrat and im not republican. why arnt we going after osama with the full force of the US army. iraq did not cause 9/11. also i have a question. why is iraq still partialy in the stoneage?

Iraq was a safe hold for terriost... Saddam was giving weapons to them.... Saddam was paying $10,000 to any family of a suicide bomber that killed the jews in israel... Saddam is no worse than Osama. You rather have Saddam in office raping more people and killing more people? Have his sons still alive raping their soccer team any time they lost a game? Honestly why wont people get their heads out of their asses. We took out a dictator and are putting in a democracy in Iraq where the people will have a chance to vote and make their own rules now and don't have to worry about a dictator...... We gave a country in the middle east a democracy.... Yes are troops are dieing but the signed up for the military and new the risk, and most of all they want to be there. Yes they miss home but they want to be there to give freedom to people who never had freedom.




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#170 14 years ago

you gotta admit that we could of done a better job and planned it better.