Why is public transportation in America so crappy? 67 replies

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#1 10 years ago

If I had the choice, I would take public transportation everyday and use it as much as possible. However, I don't have that choice. The buses in St. Louis go in 2 hour intervals at the stops and the light rail doesn't go into the county. So, in a sense, that forces me to be a slave to my automobile. If the price of gas goes up, I have NO alternative because I can't afford a hybrid and public transportation is atrocious. Additionally, St. Louis used to have a trolley system but it was removed. :(

From what I've read, it isn't much better in some of the bigger cities.

In Washington D.C., the 7-Day Fast Pass costs $39. So, that would roughly be 156 dollars a month. OUCH!

In New York, it's much more reasonable with a 76 dollar monthly pass.

Besides D.C., Boston, and New York...what other cities have an effective public transport system (if any)? Describe what you have where you live please and make a comparison.




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#2 10 years ago

Because America thinks schemes that benefit everybody at the cost of tax dollars are evil communist plots. Why do you think you have no national health service?




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#3 10 years ago

Also, the fact is our Ego, most of us just like to have our own cars, especially the wanna be racing var noobs, and the huge ugly SUVs and Vans and Hummers....

and supposedly gas is going to $4 over the summer. OR near it.




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#4 10 years ago

Why is public transportation so crappy....

Because it's Houston TX...that's why...




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#5 10 years ago

Anchorage, Alaska has a great bus system. Clean too, they keep the stuff well maintained.


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#6 10 years ago

Rich19;4240333Because America thinks schemes that benefit everybody at the cost of tax dollars are evil communist plots. Why do you think you have no national health service?[/quote]

[quote=-DarthMaul-;4240340]Also, the fact is our Ego, most of us just like to have our own cars, especially the wanna be racing var noobs, and the huge ugly SUVs and Vans and Hummers....

and supposedly gas is going to $4 over the summer. OR near it.

Both are true. Additionally, the US is home to the largest and most powerful automotive lobbies. Take San Francisco: in the 70ies, I believe, much of the local train tracks were bought by GM only to have them ripped out. That such a thing is possible, is simply horrible.

Here, I pay 50€ a month for infinite trips on any bus, street car, subway or train in the entire city in an extremely dense network in a large city. So it's not like this isn't possible.




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#7 10 years ago
Rich19;4240333Because America thinks schemes that benefit everybody at the cost of tax dollars are evil communist plots. Why do you think you have no national health service?

Right, that is exactly it, wow I am impressed.:smack: To say we do not wish to want mass public transportation is inaccurate. America is a nation subdivided by States, each having their own constitutional directives, economies, etc.. This directly impacts where funds go based on local governments needs and wants, and not all communities necessarily require or need public transportation, save for our Interstates – which up until the 1950’s were none existent, and only implemented as a way to transport troops, hence why Interstates our federally owned and maintained. Also, depending on geographical location, certain forms of public transportation (i.e. mass commuter trains or bussing systems) are not economically feasibly, especially if rural town populations do not warrant the expenditure and voters wish monies to be used elsewhere, hence the inflated cost to ride in some areas/cities. Granted, more rail lines are need, and why the many unused, crisscrossed rail lines that now have been paved over or built upon were given up, has much to do with early 20th century faith in the automobile and the open road. Many cities have in recent years reinvested in railways (i.e. Denver), but getting people to give up the freedom of the car is difficult and not always practical.

the US is home to the largest and most powerful automotive lobbies. Take San Francisco: in the 70ies, I believe, much of the local train tracks were bought by GM only to have them ripped out.That such a thing is possible, is simply horrible.

It was the 30's not the 70's. Agreed, it was a horrible thing to do and America as a whole suffered for it, but contrary to what some here believe, it was to promote the automobile industry and its intrests, not to thwart Communisim or a national health care system.




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#8 10 years ago
Karst;4240479Both are true. To borrow a phrase - "what do they teachy in schools these days"?[/quote] Additionally, the US is home to the largest and most powerful automotive lobbies. Take San Francisco: in the 70ies, I believe, much of the local train tracks were bought by GM only to have them ripped out. That such a thing is possible, is simply horrible.

You believe? Source please -




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#9 10 years ago

Los Angeles has a pretty good public transit system in my opinion. Metro operates the buses, subway and light rail systems and when you purchase a day pass (which is five bucks) on one, it works on all of the others. Also, the buses let out right in front of Union Station and the subway lets out in it, so you can easily get to the train station and board Metrolink, which is a cheap commuter rail line that links local communities with Los Angeles. You can also board Amtrak from Union Station and go anywhere in the country, without ever getting in a car. Furthermore, Metro itself is always expanding, soon the subway will take you as far as Pasadena, Santa Monica and Culver City. However, with all the public transportation available, something like only 11% of Los Angeles commuters even use it.

Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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#10 10 years ago
Red Menace;4240510However, with all the public transportation available, something like only 11% of Los Angeles commuters even use it.

Exactly, for Europe it works, here, people just choose (the key word) not to. Denver has one of the best systems in the country and we hover around 23% (nearly 3 million people yearly). Yet we continue to have the third worse traffic rating in the nation, and rising gas prices don't seem to have made an impact.