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Roaming East

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#21 11 years ago

a reiteration on the fact that the picture is old. months and months old. News tends to post on recent things i think.




Chemix2

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#22 11 years ago

Most news medias get really relevant information on government and military actions that aren't announced with massive demand for publicity, months and months down the road.

The fact that the picture is months old is irrelevant.




-DarthMaul-

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#23 11 years ago

Wow first thing I thought when I saw this was "Cool, This is an oldie" There are lots of other pictures out there with sources/stories that are very great, if you know where to find them, or put an effort to it. I tend to try every now and then.

Oh yeah, and from me starting a couple of Media related threads(pointing out the bads) I already agree that the American media sucks on both sides.




Trojan_Ripper

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#24 11 years ago
The Fat Controller;3948288In the cold light of day, where you see 1,200,000 excess Iraqi deaths because of the war, millions of refugees and soldiers still walking the stricken streets, a story about a nice soldier who holds a little girl just isn't newsworthy. At least not to people who care about the reality of the situation.

Since you don’t come close to factual information about the Iraqi war then I assume you’re not one of those “people” who care about the reality of the situation. Click it.... http://h1.ripway.com/Trojan_Ripper/LittleRiverBand-LonesomeLoser.mp3 (Open)




General Rommel

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#25 11 years ago

This story is touching, wish their were more people out in the world like that.




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#26 11 years ago

See, I did see this in the news months ago, the Air Force Times to be precise. Why do you think the rest of the media'd do a fluff piece about the people they are trying to convince you are worth killing?




Time2KILL

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#27 11 years ago
I'll tell you why! The media doesn't care, the media is only concered with tradedys thats why, yet I agree this should be in the news.

media cares about ratings not tratagies... What draws your attention more, a tragics or something good?

But yeah I like this picture, it gives me hope in mankind.




Yannick

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#28 11 years ago

My guess is because, and lets be honest here, a soldier caring for a child isn't really news.




Niipzu

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#29 11 years ago
Chemix2;39484701,200,000 dead? Try 60,000, perhaps 1,000 refugees, versus (under Saddam's rein) 270,000 people tortured to death, Iraqis alone, not counting the kurds or kuwaits, not counting the deaths of innocents he funded by paying the families of suicide bombers in Palestine for their "lost loved ones" sacrifice towards killing random innocent Israelis.

At least that refugee number is ridicolously out of proportion. The numbers available suggest something in range of 1.5 to 2.5 millions refugees. That's a big mess; something like 1/10 of population is forced to leave their homes, lives and head for safety - into countries like Syria!

Warning over spiralling Iraq refugee crisis | Iraq | Guardian Unlimited CONFLICT IN IRAQ / Iraq refugee crisis exploding / 40% of middle class believed to have fled crumbling nation U.S. to admit 7,000 Iraq refugees - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

About the death number, it's far more complex one. It is hard even make any real estimations as the data and methodology varies.

Iraq Body Count "The count encompasses non-combatants killed by military or paramilitary action and the breakdown in civil security following the invasion." 74 -80.000 range

Iraqi Health Ministery Iraqi health minister estimates as many as 150,000 Iraqis killed by insurgents - iht,europe,Austria Iraqis Killed - Europe - International Herald Tribune Estimates insurgency and war related related deaths to 100-150.000.

Several house-hold surveys suggest numbers in range of 400.000 - 1.200.000. ORB - Opinion Business Research - Newsroom The Media Ignore Credible Poll Revealing 1.2 Million Violent Deaths In Iraq http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/images/journals/lancet/s0140673606694919.pdf

It's worth noting that while the ORB and Lancet give such high numbers, the magnitude is somewhat identical.

The rise in the mortality rate is also alarming. The Iraqi healthcare system has declined seriously after invasion. Iraqi health care system rife with problems - Military News, Army News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Army Times Foreign Policy In Focus | The Destruction of Iraqi Healthcare Infrastructure

I'm not educated enough to draw the final number. But it's a tragedy for Iraqis: the evil reign, persecution and harsh control has turned into anarchy, random killing and deriorated living conditions. It's hard to see the winners in those parties.




Chemix2

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#30 11 years ago

I would much rather be in a semi-functional health system than in one where the fully active hospital could be bombed by my own leader as a weapon test. Furthermore, I mistyped 1,000,000 as 1,000 for refugees, my mistake I know, however you're over pushing your point.

Iraqi Body Count and the Iraqi Health ministry have no way of discerning most active insurgents from normal people, because they are normal people, simply with agendas and loaded guns.