2nd October 2006
Israel told U.S. officials in 2008 it would keep Gaza's economy "on the brink of collapse" while avoiding a humanitarian crisis, according to U.S. diplomatic cables published by a Norwegian daily on Wednesday.
Three cables cited by the Aftenposten newspaper, which has said it has all 250,000 U.S. cables leaked to WikiLeaks, showed that Israel kept the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv briefed on its internationally criticized blockade of the Gaza Strip.
The territory, home to 1.3 million Palestinians, is run by the Islamist Hamas group, which is shunned by the West over its refusal to recognize Israel, renounce violence or accept existing interim Israeli-Palestinian peace deals.
"As part of their overall embargo plan against Gaza, Israeli officials have confirmed to (U.S. embassy economic officers) on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy on the brink of collapse without quite pushing it over the edge," one of the cables read.
Israel wanted the coastal territory's economy "functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis", according to the Nov. 3, 2008 cable.
In a speech in January 2008, then-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert appeared to spell out that policy, which has since been eased in the wake of an international outcry over a deadly Israeli raid last May on a Turkish aid ship trying to break the blockade.
"We will not harm the supply of food for children, medicine for those who need it and fuel for institutions that save lives," Olmert said at the time.
"But there is no justification for demanding we allow residents of Gaza to live normal lives while shells and rockets are fired from their streets and courtyards (at southern Israel)," he added.
Israel says it has significantly relaxed the blockade since May, with dozens of truckloads of goods entering the territory daily. Aid organizations have said shipments should be increased further.
Palestinians say impoverished Gaza remains effectively a "prison" sealed off by Israel, and have called for an opening to allow normal trade and other links with the world.
Lol I knew that blockage against arms smuggling was a load of bullshit they just want to destroy Palestine economically and then absorb them.
it's nothing we didn't really know anyway, but to hear it confirmed is just disgraceful. In the last 2 years, my opinion of Israel has declined to a level where I find it difficult to not be biased against them. it's nothing against religion (as alex37 accused me of all the time), it's against the government and its blatantly elitist policies. That said, they really didn't do a good job keeping gaza on the brink of a humanitarian crisis.
2nd October 2006
No problems with Israelis, just their zionist government.
Vasili;5453130No problems with Israelis, just their zionist government.
Exactly what my problem is. the absolute jewish supremacy they believe in, the treatment of arabs who have lived there for generations as second class citizens, the complete lack of consideration of the fact that Arabs have lived there for not much shorter a period than them. they justify their actions on things that happened centuries to millennia ago, things almost entirely irrelevant to the modern times we live in. Not to mention their uncompromisable zionism is a major reason why jihad is so predominate these days. major terrorist leaders have said it themselves. Israel's attitude doesn't help at all.
High as a kite
29th May 2008
Israel complains about terrorist attacks from Palestine. What do they expect? Not only do you defeat them and their allies in multiple wars, you illegally occupy the country and blame them for evrything. If they are keeping the economy on the verge of collapse and forcing the Palestinian people into poverty extremist groups will act, especially in a lower educated area. Would happen anywhere else in the world. I woud love to see Alex37's response to this-he may as well have been Israel's ambassador.
GF is my bext friend *hugs GF*
28th April 2010
Wonder why those very oil poor Arabs could let it happen.
Red_Fist;5453226Wonder why those very oil poor Arabs could let it happen.
because there's nothing they could do? half the Arab countries out there have been pressuring Israel to loosen its blockade on the Gaza strip. Here's why they let it happen: ISRAEL DON'T LISTEN TO ANYBODY. They do what they want and don't give a shit about the long-term humanitarian consequences. Multiple countries have been involved with diplomacy over Gaza. Israel didn't listen. The fault doesn't lie with them. They were powerless to do anything due to a combination of economic entanglement (military action would have severe economic consequences for Arab oil nations) and a lack of willingness to go to war.
13th December 2009
Why the Arabs can't help ?
Saudi Arabia is basically a corrupt government, puppet of the US. Therefore, it's a indirectly inclined to "follow" Israel. Egypt doesn't give that much of a shit, and wouldn't risk their soldiers lives for "some dumb strip" The Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, ...) is way too poor to even solve it's own corruption. Iraq, Afghanistan. Don't mention. You know it. Iran, well, they're scaring the shit out of Israel, and I'll be glad if they bombed some zionists in presidential buildings (I clearly said Zionists. Not Jews). I'm pretty sure Iran will be involved in a conflict with the US, the latter backing Israel.
Israel + US (eventually + France with the hypocrit Sarkozy) = Too big to handle for the Arabs.
So, to sum it up, the Arab countries are either too lazy, too selfish, too corrupt, too poor, too pressured or too stupid to do something.
Back to the original post. I think it was quite clear.
If Hamas is leading Palestina, then Israel has some excuses to expand their lands on or bomb or ... the strip. They'll keep on talking about the rockets and human shields and terrorists, etc ... etc ..., and use this as an advantage. Ofcourse they'll put Gaza on brink of collapse:
If people are almost starving, they become extreme. Their extremeness drives them to extreme ideologies and parties like Hamas (just like the Great Depression drove the Germans to Hitler) Hamas acts violently (stoopid move) Israel responds harshly, commits atrocities Israel gets condemned by the UN and yadda yadda, but nothing is happening, because Israel has an excuse.
So, basically, Hamas is fuelling Israels actions. Afterall, in theory, wouldn't it be very dangerous for Israel if they attacked a peaceful Palestina (without Hamas) ? They wouldn't have any reason to expand their lands or get rid of the Palestinians, with Hamas gone.
So, it's a win win situation for Israel
27th May 2009
The Palestinians have fought the Arab states almost as much as they have the Israelis. Black September, anyone?
The Arab states surrounding Palestine are corrupt and repressive, and the only reason they are interested in defeating Israel is so they can win back their national pride, rather than help the Palestinians reclaim their country.
It's amazing how any sort of criticism of Israel is instantly labeled "Anti-semitism", even though most critics of Israel never make reference to race or religion. This is similar to the law in Turkey that makes it illegal to "Insult Turkishness", basically identifying yourself as a Kurd, speaking Kurdish, or in the case of politician Leyla Zana, stating that you wish to pursue "a peaceful and democratic union between Turks and Kurds" can land you more than a decade in jail. Coincidentally, both Turkey and Israel have a military alliance and receive strong backing from the American right and business sectors.
29th January 2005
I believe some of this came up during debates on the Gaza blockade. The blockade is essentially being done in such a way to destroy the Gazan economy. Here is a graphic from The Economist about what is being let in, and what isn't.
Essentially cripple the Gazan economy. The aim of this is the same as an embargo imposed on "rogue" states- drive down the economy to discredit the ruling party and affect a change in power.
I would like to read these cables myself though. They're not among those already released, but then again that wouldn't give Aftenposten a unique story if it was available to everyone.