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MrFancypants Forum Admin

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#1 8 years ago

Wikileaks hits the media again with another massive leak of secret files. This time a lot of information such as assessments about other states are released.

Some of the highlights include corruption in the government of Afghanistan, the CIA intimidating the German government to cover up mistakes, a cooperation between Iran and North Korea on long range missiles, the Saudi king advising the US to attack Iran and risks of Pakistani nuclear material ending up in the wrong hands.

At a first glance it appears that most of the information isn't new or shocking but corresponds with what most people think is going on. Still, the US doesn't seem to be very happy and is trying a DOS attack on wikileaks now.

BBC News - Wikileaks release of embassy cables reveals US concerns




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#2 8 years ago
Germany being warned in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for US Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in an operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was abducted and held in Afghanistan

No wonder the US doesn't want it released. Jesus Christ. I thought I was cynical. I mean if I was incharge that's exactly the sort of shit I'd do. But that people out there actually are as evil as I am, that there are enough of them to pull this crap off and hush it up in multiple countries....

Fuck me. You may as well give up on democracy now. If they'll do this you can rest assured that game's rigged too - I'd rig it. And from this the people like me are incharge of the asylum.

Sorry, the bastards have won. And I hold no particular hope that the more moral of you will do anything about it either.




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Nemmerle;5430371No wonder the US doesn't want it released. Jesus Christ. I thought I was cynical. I mean if I was incharge that's exactly the sort of shit I'd do. But that people out there actually are as evil as I am, that there are enough of them to pull this crap off and hush it up in multiple countries....

Fuck me. You may as well give up on democracy now. If they'll do this you can rest assured that game's rigged too - I'd rig it. And from this the people like me are incharge of the asylum.

Sorry, the bastards have won. And I hold no particular hope that the more moral of you will do anything about it either.

That part didn't really surprise me. I think it is almost a natrual tendency for people to try to cover up their mistakes. The difference with mistakes on that level is probably just that those guys tell themselves that they have to cover up their mistakes because it is in the best interest of the country.

But I agree that the perhaps most sobering thing about these leaks is that it proves that the guys in charge aren't any better than the rest of us.




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Nemmerle;5430371No wonder the US doesn't want it released. Jesus Christ. I thought I was cynical. I mean if I was incharge that's exactly the sort of shit I'd do. But that people out there actually are as evil as I am, that there are enough of them to pull this crap off and hush it up in multiple countries....

Fuck me. You may as well give up on democracy now. If they'll do this you can rest assured that game's rigged too - I'd rig it. And from this the people like me are incharge of the asylum.

Sorry, the bastards have won. And I hold no particular hope that the more moral of you will do anything about it either.

Your first mistake was assuming democracy was ever a goal and not just simply tool to push ever expanding agenda's, to believe that empires are dead is wrong but to think of them in the old way is foolish and no longer feasible.

It's far simpler to allow a country to control it's own government and all the problems that accompany that control, than it is to out right annex it, to control a country by ownership of it's private sector is the best option of them all, you have control of it without the hassles of being responsible for it's welfare.




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#5 8 years ago

This is a surprise? Just because the Cold War is over doesn't mean




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#6 8 years ago

I'm already over Wikileaks, from what I've read so far (I doubt I will ever read all two-hundred thousand something documents, so I could be wrong) it is all stuff we kind of already knew: the Arabs don't like Iran, the CIA screws up, Afghan government is corrupt, North Korea sells nuclear information, Pakistan is unstable...

Assange is a showman, he hypes this stuff from his "undisclosed locations" as monumental blows to big brother and the US government plays along and acts tough. Then, it all turns out to be pretty lackluster. I think if the US government was really worried that their deepest, darkest secrets were going to get out, a DoS attack would not be the limit of their actions.

He should trade in Russian secrets and we'll see how long before he gets pushed out into traffic from his "undisclosed location." I don't think the Russians will play this game.


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#7 8 years ago
Nemmerle;5430371No wonder the US doesn't want it released. Jesus Christ. I thought I was cynical. I mean if I was incharge that's exactly the sort of shit I'd do. But that people out there actually are as evil as I am, that there are enough of them to pull this crap off and hush it up in multiple countries....

The CIA does these things because they know we will let them get away with it. The blunt reality of it is that a news story about Jennifer Lopez's relationship problems will get more attention than a story about Agency misconduct.

Fuck me. You may as well give up on democracy now. If they'll do this you can rest assured that game's rigged too - I'd rig it. And from this the people like me are incharge of the asylum.

Uh no, they're in charge because we want them to be. If we didn't like being lied to these people would not be in office.

Sorry, the bastards have won. And I hold no particular hope that the more moral of you will do anything about it either.

That's right, give up. Just like a good little sheep. That's exactly what they want you to do.




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#8 8 years ago

They're in charge because it's not worth the bother of removing them, not necessarily because people want them to be. And as long as Jennifer Lopez is having a celebrity affair or whatever it is these people get up to and there's food at a reasonable price things look set to remain that way.




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#9 8 years ago

Nothing kills democracy like apathy. This is what I meant in the terrorism thread when I said "every people has a government they deserve". If you do nothing and don't even care about what happens around you, you're in no position to object when the bombs start to fall.




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#10 8 years ago

Now Australia is threatening to jail him for leaking sensitive documents, what a joke, kinda slaps freedom of speech in the face, and stinks of corruption, as in the Australian government was pressured into it by another government.......

l have nothing against this guy or wiki leaks, freedom of speech is something we fought for, and if these organizations want secrecy they should do a far better job at it than they are, if anything wiki leaks has shown that they lack massive security with there secrets, and you can bet all our enemies had this information ages ago.