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#1 8 years ago

[COLOR=Black]Wikileaks apparently got thousands of secret documents about the war in Afghanistan from a whistleblower and supplied these to the New York Times, Guardian and Spiegel (German magazine).

There are a whole bunch of new articles about it already, some focusing on problems in the war in Afghanistan, others on possible involvement of the Pakistani secret service in terrorist attacks.[/COLOR]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/world/asia/26isi.html?hp http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/world/asia/26warlogs.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all




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#2 8 years ago

And apparently they're holding back another 15,000 documents for the security of the source.

I met Julian Assange (regarded as the main spokesman of Wikileaks) back in 2007 in Kenya, before Wikileaks opened for business. I was sceptical that it would really amount to much, and that their distribution network (ie how they receive and pass leaked documents) was extremely fanciful. I was so wrong.

Their ability to get these sorts of files, and in such numbers, from so many sources, and from so many countries, is completely unprecedented.




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#3 8 years ago

Who to believe and why? Take this for instance:

Secret commando units like Task Force 373 — a classified group of Army and Navy special operatives — work from a “capture/kill list” of about 70 top insurgent commanders. These missions, which have been stepped up under the Obama administration, claim notable successes, but have sometimes gone wrong, killing civilians and stoking Afghan resentment.

Why would you do it in such a way as to look like you'd done it? How much of this was in the reports, how much of it was someone's impression, how much of it was added in afterwards as interpretation either by wikileaks or the news agencies?

It's a dirty business and everyone's got reasons to stretch the truth.




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#4 8 years ago

Nemmerle;5366677Who to believe and why?

Why would you do it in such a way as to look like you'd done it? How much of this was in the reports, how much of it was someone's impression, how much of it was added in afterwards as interpretation either by wikileaks or the news agencies?

It's a dirty business and everyone's got reasons to stretch the truth.

You could go to Wikileaks and look at the raw files, and then match them against whatever interpretation the media was putting on it.




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#5 8 years ago

So how much work has been done by Capt Price?

But seriously...

I didnt know Pakistan had a secret service.




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#6 8 years ago

ISI. pretty significant service too. They play both sides of the table, assisting in capturing taliban and AQ honchos while also assisting both groups in pulling off operations like the kabul embassy bombing and such.




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#7 8 years ago

Yup the ISI is quite infamous in Pakistan.

There would be fewer civilian deaths if the Insurgents quit using civilians as shields.




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#8 8 years ago

I wonder how many people face prosecution this time around. Although we must acknowledge that this (wikileaks) isn't perfect either as documents could be faked. And the first path to see unjustice or shady things undone would be to report it internally, though organisations aren't too keen on real whistleblowers. But that seems to change for the better in recent times. Failing all that, if their isn't a save way to raise attention to some great injustice, then I really don't mind leaking classified material from any business, or organisation, private or public.




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#9 8 years ago
isn't perfect either as documents could be faked.

I'd hate to be the guy working for wikileaks tasked with forging 92,000 +15,000 unreleased documents.




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#10 8 years ago

Anlushac11;5366817 There would be fewer civilian deaths if the Insurgents quit using civilians as shields.[/QUOTE] But are those civilian deaths attributed to American forces, is what I want to know. Or if a suicide bomber blows up a market, are those counted towards American civilian causalities?

[QUOTE=Mihail;5366862]I'd hate to be the guy working for wikileaks tasked with forging 92,000 +15,000 unreleased documents.

They dont have to forge all of them. Just a few edits here and there and you could make America look like Nazi Germany.

I hope they nail the leaker to the wall with syringes tho. Serious brig time for that bastard.