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Admiral Donutz VIP Member

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#141 12 years ago
Draco_2kOh well. I mean, even though it's pretty tricky in legal terms, not allowing them to have legit relationships would simply violate basic human rights convention.

yup

That didn't quite sound like you agreed to the previous statement.

Mine or yours? :p I'm saying the same thing as my previous post but with different words.

Short answer: Yes. As I said, it's the universal feeling. What makes you think we are superior to them in spiritual terms? In fact, things are pretty contrarywise.

Superior? Hard to tell. Differently for sure. If you link "more inteligent" to it we might be more "superior" but that too is relative since animals can be very smart aswell (in different ways then humans).

And how would you express you love someone? It's not that hard, really.

Physical contact (animals can do this too) and explaining my feelings in words (animals can't do this, they can make sounds but they don't have acces to a complicated langauge as what we have to express our feelings).

How do you know that? Also, are you saying that kids somehow happen to be somehow impared to other people? They might happen to know less about 'social' interaction and all 'science' stuff, but not anything else, including spiritual realms.

How I know that kids aren't meant to have sex at such low edges (before they become teen), because their body doesn't become ready to reproduce (and also mentally changes!) untill then.




Draco_2k

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#142 12 years ago
Großadmiral Dönitzyup[/quote] Uh-huh.
Großadmiral DönitzMine or yours? :p I'm saying the same thing as my previous post but with different words.[/quote] Yeah... Uh, mine one: the animals can love first, of all. [quote=Großadmiral Dönitz]Physical contact (animals can do this too) and explaining my feelings in words (animals can't do this, they can make sounds but they don't have access to a complicated langauge as what we have to express our feelings).
Well, you stated the first point. And I wouldn't call the second a barrier here - communication is pretty much possible without words, but, that aside, love doesn't really need words. [quote=Großadmiral Dönitz]How I know that kids aren't meant to have sex at such low edges (before they become teen), because their body doesn't become ready to reproduce (and also mentally changes!) untill then.

I would state that physical age isn't really directly linked to the mental one (I've met 90-year-old-people with an intellect of 5-year-old and 13-year-olds with an intellect of Einstein), I wouldn't really say that age is the first thing that matters in that case, physical state even less, that's just about it.




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#143 12 years ago
Draco_2k Burden of proof? Whatever is this about? Anyway, slavery, beign the imparation of human's rights, has pretty much to do with it, actually. Hack. Please, take a look a this, I don't really want to quote myself the thousandth time. :rofl: I'd say the same about yourself. :lol: Do you even know about it?

I am to concede that you are not worth arguing with. You don't know what burden of proof is, and are not aware of the mass murder going on around the world. Instead you mention Tibet as the perfect reason for having no government. Have a good day.




Draco_2k

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#144 12 years ago
WiseBoboI am to concede that you are not worth arguing with. You don't know what burden of proof is, and are not aware of the mass murder going on around the world. Instead you mention Tibet as the perfect reason for having no government. Have a good day.

Too bad. Oh well. :cya:

PS: I had much to tell explain from my side about perceptions and society matters, but nevermind that, least I save my keyboard lifetime on it.




Joe Bonham

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#145 12 years ago
Because kids are not mean to engage into things such as sex and love yet, those things come with puperity. The extremly large age difference also plays a role but two 5 year olds (being talked into) having sex together isn't nice either (sexual exploration among other kids sure, that's natural but not sex and true love).

Who told you this? God? This is what I'm saying exactly - moral rules no longer exist. There is no basis for your statement - or mine - or anybody else's. They aren't "rules" anymore - just opinions.

Look at the 10 commandment - at first glance, the first 4 rules seem unnecessary. But without them, the last six rules, the ones that DO have practical purpose, would have no moral grounding.




Draco_2k

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#146 12 years ago
Machiavelli's ApprenticeThis is what I'm saying exactly - moral rules no longer exist. There is no basis for your statement - or mine - or anybody else's. They aren't "rules" anymore - just opinions.

Thank god we have at least one point in common. Least in certain degree.




colonel_bob

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#147 12 years ago
Machiavelli's ApprenticeThis is what I'm saying exactly - moral rules no longer exist. There is no basis for your statement - or mine - or anybody else's. They aren't "rules" anymore - just opinions.

Ah, relativism. It can make anything seem alright. But is it the right way to look at things? Depends. :D




Draco_2k

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#148 12 years ago
colonel_bob Ah, relativism. It can make anything seem alright. But is it the right way to look at things? Depends. :D

:lol: Nice. However, we're not talking about relativistic matters in this case, but rather whether something will cause mayhem/harm to to anyone upon legalisation. Can you add anything on this matter?




Locomotor

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#149 12 years ago
Originally posted by Draco_2K That line didn't look quite civil the first time it was posted. In fact, that sounded very insulting. So much for a single word. So there.

What on Earth are you talking about? Did I miss something? I made an insulting, one word post, directed at you?

Nice. However, we're not talking about relativistic matters in this case, but rather whether something will cause mayhem/harm to to anyone upon legalisation. Can you add anything on this matter?

Maybe we should get back to the slippery slope, then. Sure, this doesn't cause anyone harm (I disagree, however). But what's next? It's not as simple as legalizing homosexual marriage, or legalizing beastiality.




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#150 12 years ago
colonel_bobAh, relativism. It can make anything seem alright. But is it the right way to look at things? Depends. :D

True, a relativist won't set up an Iranian-style dictatorship. But he will stand by and do nothing if one is created in front of his nose. Inaction is just as bad as willful participation.