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Tas

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#1 12 years ago

I'll probably get called a hippy for what i'm about to say, but i dont really care, so dont bother.

I've been unemployed for a while, i'm not going to school either at the moment, even though i plan on doing so after the summer is over. I medical condition i wont go into at the moment kept me from doing most jobs, those involving manual labour especially. Other employers kept firing me, and recently i've just given up on finding any more, not being able to find anything that wasnt either extremely degrading or simply crap due to poor pay. Currently i'm living of a disability allowance, its not much, but i get by.

Now, my family kept telling me to keep looking for a job. Fair enough i suppose, working would be the normal thing to do, hanging around at home and with friends isnt, but it got me thinking..

A normal full time job, alot of people have these. They have to start at.. 8:00, and they get out at maybe 16:00. Including commuting and eating/getting dressed, the time spend on working would be something like 7:00 - 16:30. Thats almost 10 hours, then dinner must be made, showers must be taken, and the household needs attention, that leaves maybe 2 hours for recreation before going to bed.

I think its safe to assume that for alot of people, working days are not days that they are actually living. They spend it working, or recovering from working for the most part. That leaves two days, the much loved weekend. Working class people, generic constructionworker and factory assemblyline worker might do this for decades without getting promoted. From the day they turn 18, till they are 50 years old.

Now tell me, isnt that a crappy way to live? wasting away 5/7th of your life doing something you do not enjoy, usually putting your health at risk at the same time, just so you can survive. There must be some older people on these boards that have or are experiencing this right now, my question to you is, when did you give up getting a job you enjoyed? And how do you manage to stay happy?

Ive done my bit of hard work, cleaning stadiums, picking tomato's and whatnot so i could support my family, but now i'm glad that i dont have to work anymore untill the new school year starts. And why not, i'm in the prime of my life, i want to have fun while i can, and want to enjoy the time i have on earth, does that make me a bad person?

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#2 12 years ago

It isn't a bad way to live (for now). Just don't do it for the rest of your life or you will regret it. Find a job or activity that you enjoy and stick with that (at least that is what I am doing). :)

Hell, it's not about the money for me. I'm majoring in Music Composition. Do you really think that jobs are popping out left and right for that? Hell no. I major in it/do it because I love it.




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#3 12 years ago

I have nothing against working, as long as enjoy it.. sadly those jobs are hard to find. :P




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#4 12 years ago
The 13th RaptorI have nothing against working, as long as enjoy it.. sadly those jobs are hard to find. :P

Good luck finding a job that pays well and one you enjoy doing EVERYDAY of your LIFE. You work for money and to feed yourself and family and in hopes of retiring with a nice nest egg. If you want nice things in life you have to work to buy them. Nothing is free, not even sex :) Work is not supposed to be fun but we do it because we have to. Find a job you can deal with is all I can say. Unless you strike it rich you are going to have to join the grind sooner or later ;) How old are you anyway?




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#5 12 years ago

Bah, i'll go live with african tribesmen before i join the grind. I'm going to stay in school till i know i can do something i like.. airplane mechanic or biologist. :P

And i'll be 20 next month.




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#6 12 years ago

The 13th RaptorBah, i'll go live with african tribesmen before i join the grind. I'm going to stay in school till i know i can do something i like.. airplane mechanic or biologist. :P

And i'll be 20 next month.

All I can say is get that piece of paper so you can demand more money, no matter what job you choose.

Oh don't forget the people who work 6 days a week ;)




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#7 12 years ago

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a great reason why welfare should be done away with. Damn hippies...




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#8 12 years ago

I'm 28. 29 this year and I have worked fulltime for the last 8 of those. There is a simple philosophy to remaining happy:

"Work to live. Do not live to work."

Your job/career should be a means to an end. Something you do to enable you to enjoy life. I work so that I can have nice things. Nice clothes, nights out, good food, drink, MP3 players, cell phones, a good computer, expensive holidays. Your job should never consume you, for that way madness lies, it should simply offer you a pass to fun and interesting times.

For example: Last weekend my girlfriend and I spent the weekend getting drunk, larking around in country pubs, eating out and having a blast. This costs money; money my job provides. In September we'll be jetting off to Cuba for two weeks of luxury. My job pays for that too. I am happy in my work because I understand it's purpose. It's purpose is not to consume my life and render it meaningless and boring. It's purpose is do give my life meaning by allowing me to do what I want to do and to improve my life as a consequence.

I am fortunate because I work in a place where we are encouraged to talk to each other and to interact and have fun. My employer recognises that making somewhere a great place to work improves productivity and results. My job, and I know I have bitched about it mercilessly in the past, is actually pretty cool. I sit on my fat ass talking to people and getting paid for doing virtually nothing. Some days all I have to do is turn up. I'm lucky, yes, but I wasn't always. I have worked:

  • Selling shoes
  • Stacking shelves
  • Making fish fingers (I lasted exactly 2 hours)
  • Making pizzas
  • Making microwave meals
  • In an off-licence
  • Selling mobile phones
  • Cleaning

I have had shitty jobs. But I always knew that at the end of the week I would have money in my pocket, food in the cupboards and a roof over my head. I knew I could go out, spend money, have a life.

If you remember to work to live and not live to work you can do almost any shitty job and be happy with it.




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#9 12 years ago
AzHI'm 28. 29 this year and I have worked fulltime for the last 8 of those. There is a simple philosophy to remaining happy:
"Work to live. Do not live to work."
Your job/career should be a means to an end. Something you do to enable you to enjoy life. I work so that I can have nice things. Nice clothes, nights out, good food, drink, MP3 players, cell phones, a good computer, expensive holidays. Your job should never consume you, for that way madness lies, it should simply offer you a pass to fun and interesting times. For example: Last weekend my girlfriend and I spent the weekend getting drunk, larking around in country pubs, eating out and having a blast. This costs money; money my job provides. In September we'll be jetting off to Cuba for two weeks of luxury. My job pays for that too. I am happy in my work because I understand it's purpose. It's purpose is not to consume my life and render it meaningless and boring. It's purpose is do give my life meaning by allowing me to do what I want to do and to improve my life as a consequence. I am fortunate because I work in a place where we are encouraged to talk to each other and to interact and have fun. My employer recognises that making somewhere a great place to work improves productivity and results. My job, and I know I have bitched about it mercilessly in the past, is actually pretty cool. I sit on my fat ass talking to people and getting paid for doing virtually nothing. Some days all I have to do is turn up. I'm lucky, yes, but I wasn't always. I have worked:
  • Selling shoes
  • Stacking shelves
  • Making fish fingers (I lasted exactly 2 hours)
  • Making pizzas
  • Making microwave meals
  • In an off-licence
  • Selling mobile phones
  • Cleaning
I have had shitty jobs. But I always knew that at the end of the week I would have money in my pocket, food in the cupboards and a roof over my head. I knew I could go out, spend money, have a life. If you remember to work to live and not live to work you can do almost any shitty job and be happy with it.

An excellent example of how to be positive with things like that. I myself worked in a supermarket for 18 months, hated every bit of it, but because it is the only work available to me for my age, I stuck at it, made a good deal of money, and im close to buying my first car. Loving it all :).




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#10 12 years ago

The 13th RaptorI'll probably get called a hippy for what i'm about to say, but i dont really care, so dont bother.

I've been unemployed for a while, i'm not going to school either at the moment, even though i plan on doing so after the summer is over. I medical condition i wont go into at the moment kept me from doing most jobs, those involving manual labour especially. Other employers kept firing me, and recently i've just given up on finding any more, not being able to find anything that wasnt either extremely degrading or simply crap due to poor pay. Currently i'm living of a disability allowance, its not much, but i get by.

Now, my family kept telling me to keep looking for a job. Fair enough i suppose, working would be the normal thing to do, hanging around at home and with friends isnt, but it got me thinking..

A normal full time job, alot of people have these. They have to start at.. 8:00, and they get out at maybe 16:00. Including commuting and eating/getting dressed, the time spend on working would be something like 7:00 - 16:30. Thats almost 10 hours, then dinner must be made, showers must be taken, and the household needs attention, that leaves maybe 2 hours for recreation before going to bed.

I think its safe to assume that for alot of people, working days are not days that they are actually living. They spend it working, or recovering from working for the most part. That leaves two days, the much loved weekend. Working class people, generic constructionworker and factory assemblyline worker might do this for decades without getting promoted. From the day they turn 18, till they are 50 years old.

Now tell me, isnt that a crappy way to live? wasting away 5/7th of your life doing something you do not enjoy, usually putting your health at risk at the same time, just so you can survive. There must be some older people on these boards that have or are experiencing this right now, my question to you is, when did you give up getting a job you enjoyed? And how do you manage to stay happy?

Ive done my bit of hard work, cleaning stadiums, picking tomato's and whatnot so i could support my family, but now i'm glad that i dont have to work anymore untill the new school year starts. And why not, i'm in the prime of my life, i want to have fun while i can, and want to enjoy the time i have on earth, does that make me a bad person?

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I won't call you a hippe, but I will call you a spoild brat. But I should say something, when I was around 14, 15 I looked down on those people who had to work. But wrong I was. This is what life is. Work, makes money, which makes fun. The Germans used to say "Arbeit macht frie" - Work creates freedom. Even though it was used it the totally wrong context, the words itself means quite a lot. Becasue they are true in a normal woking society. When you work, you get money. With money you get freedom; freedom to do things you normally wouldn't. If you don't work, you will get stuck with nothing. And nothing isn't that cool to have. If you don't know what to do, I suggest you keep on studying til you one day knows what it is you want to do. If you know what to do allready, I suggest you start working to reach those goals. You might think that people who works are "losers" or whatever. However, in the society we live in, and with its mentality, you are the loser. Sorry for those hard words, I don't mean to offend you, but it is just the truth. Someone who don't work, and can't pay for himself, is considerd to be a parasite. And parasites aren't to cool either.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you will do.