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#1 11 years ago

BBC News Fatal shooting at Finnish school

At least one person has been killed and three others injured in a shooting incident at a school in southern Finland, local media reports.

Police gave no details of the victims' injuries in the incident in the town of Tuusula, some 50km (30 miles) north of the capital Helsinki.

Finnish media reported that the shots had been fired by an 18-year-old man who is thought to be inside the school.

The building has now been surrounded by police and ambulances are on standby.

A Tuusula municipality spokesman said the gunman opened fire during a lesson, Finland's STT news agency said.

Students and staff fled in panic, and a number of heavily armed police were later seen rushing to the scene, STT said.

Some media reports suggested a message on the You Tube website was linked to the shooting.

The school reportedly has several hundred students.

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Once again some derailed person has decided to kill people in his school, but this time we are not talking about the US, but Finland, a place where serious school violence has traditionally been committed with knives and on a small scale.

The killer is apparently some sort of militant extremist, according to some sources not purely a right-wing nazi but also an admirer of the extreme left, with idols such as both Hitler and Stalin. He seems to seriously believe that only he and some other people are worth to let live whilst the rest should be cleaned away from the world. Currently it seems this disturbed individual has been caught alive, but the police has yet to confirm this.

The confirmed dead victim is a middle-aged female teacher (possibly the principal), but two pupils have also died according to unofficial police information.

Youtube account of the killer.

I just can't understand these people and certainly not the reasons this guy had to go on his personal war on society, but I hope he hasn't a lot of friends like him just waiting for their chance to kill 'inferior' people.




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#2 11 years ago

I blame Grand Theft Auto.




Mobius 1

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#3 11 years ago

Nah Giz. Can't blame a game. It's more of a cry for help. Although we didn't have this kinda stuff back when we were kids, there were a lot of other bad influences out there.




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#4 11 years ago

He was probably joking.

This is another reason why no one needs to have guns except the law enforcement agencies and the armed forces. What's the current state of affairs in Finland with regard to gun laws? Are people allowed guns for 'personal protection' or other bullshit?




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#5 11 years ago

As a gun-nut, I feel that anyone has the right to bear arms. But you have to be responsible enough for it. If not, you deserve your fingers cut off. It's because of stupid ass teenagers and their "serious problems" with their social lives, that we are even forced to think about this. If every kid was accepted would we have this issue? Probably not. It's not about "protection" all the time either. Guns can have a seriosuly high value after time, which is why many people collect them. They'll last through the ages and go up in value, whether is has been used or not.




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#6 11 years ago

Hm, the killer wrote a rather long text explaining his reasons for this, you can read it inside the spoilers.

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That insane guyNatural Selector’s Manifesto

How Did Natural Selection Turn Into Idiocratic Selection?

Today the process of natural selection is totally misguided. It has reversed. Human race has been devolving very long time for now. Retarded and stupid , weak-minded people are reproducing more and faster than the intelligent, strong-minded people. Laws protect the retarded majority which selects the leaders of society. Modern human race has not only betrayed its ancestors, but the future generations too. Homo Sapiens, HAH! It is more like a Homo Idioticus to me! When I look at people I see every day in society, school and everywhere... I can’t say I belong to same race as the lousy, miserable, arrogant, selfish human race! No! I have evolved one step above!

Naturality has been discriminated through religions, ideologies, laws and other mass delusion systems. Individual, who is going through his/hers natural power process and trying to live naturally, but is being told that the way he acts or thinks is wrong and stupid, will usually have some reactions which might be considered as "psychological disorders" by the establishment. In reality they are just natural reactions to the disruption of natural power process. They will have some of the following (depending on individual's personality): feelings of inferiority / superiority, hostility, aggression, frustration, depression, self-hatred / hatred towards other people, suicidal / homicidal thought etc... and it is completely normal.

Humans are just a species among other animals and world does not exist only for humans. Death and killing is not a tragedy, it happens in nature all the time between all species. Not all human lives are important or worth saving. Only superior (intelligent, self-aware, strong-minded) individuals should survive while inferior (stupid, retarded, weak-minded masses) should perish.

There is also another solution to the problem: stupid people as slaves and intelligent people as free. What I mean is that they who have free minds, are capable of intelligent existential and philosophical thinking and know what justice is, should be free and rulers... and the robotic masses, they can be slaves since they do not mind it now either and because their minds are on so retarded level. The gangsters that now rule societies, would of course get what they deserve.

Of course there is a final solution too: death of entire human race. It would solve every problem of humanity. The faster human race is wiped out from this planet, the better... no one should be left alive. I have no mercy for the scum of earth, the pathetic human race.

Collective Deindividualization: Totalitarianism & Delusions Of Democracy

Collective deindividualization is a phenomenon where individual will be trained as part of the mindless herd controlled by state, corporation, church or some other organization, group, ideology, religion or mass delusion system and adopt it's rules, morality and codes of conduct. This phenomenon has been familiar in all despotic, authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchist, communist, socialist, nazi, fascist and religious societies troughout history. Also, the modern western democratic republics have the same phenomenon. It is just done so that people will think they are free and don't realize they are being enslaved. Majority of people in society are weak-minded and ignorant retards, masses that act like programmed robots and accept voluntarily slavery. But not me! I am self-aware and realize what is going on in society! I have a free mind! And I choose to be free rather than live like a robot or slave. You can say I have a “god complex”, sure... then you have a “group complex”! Compared to you retarded masses, I am actually godlike.

Totalitarian governments rule people through education system, consumerism, mass media, monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force (police, military) and laws discriminating people who think differently than the majority. Democracy... you think democracy means freedom and justice? You are wrong. Democracy is a dictatorship of the moral majority... and the majority is manipulated and ruled by the state mafia. Modern western democracy has nothing to do with freedom or justice; it is totalitarian and corrupted system. Laws are made over the heads of the people and people are being brainwashed to support the system and connected to the institutional structures immediately after their birth. Societies are being ruled by manipulative and charismatic politicians who only care about the interests of majority, and who do not base their decisions on reason but emotions and feelings of the masses. These masses let the authorities of state to make all the important decisions for them. The masses will get an education, they study, get a job, go to work and vote in elections. They think they are free and don’t criticise or question the system. They have become robots. It is like a constructed mechanism in mind, that leaves little choice for an individual to think, talk and act independently.

Three Kinds Of Humans

There are three kinds of human personality types in this world: 1) individualistic human (3% of the world population) 2) manipulative human (3% of the world population) 3) mass human (94% of the world population)

#1 & #2 type of personalities are intelligent, creative and self-aware. They have chosen bit different paths paths. #3 type of personalities are less intelligent and less creative, weak-minded people controlled by #2 type of personalities. The percentages are only estimations though but are based on Gaussian distribution and history of human race and how humans have organized into societies. And this is the way it has always been ever since humans started to organize into communities.

Another way how to divide people is bit different but is based on the same facts, human nature and history. The division is based on the level of intelligence and quality of mentality: 1) intelligent (3% of the world population) 2) slightly retarded, so called “normal people” or “robots” (94% of the world population) 3) highly retarded, “vegetables” (3% of the world population)

Total War Against Humanity

Hate, Im so full of it and I love it. That is one thing I really love. Some time ago, I used to believe in humanity and I wanted to live a long and happy life... but then I woke up. I started to think deeper and realized things. But it was not easy to become existential... knowing as much as I know has made me unhappy, frustrated and angry. I just can’t be happy in the society or the reality I live. Due to long process of existential thinking, observing the society I live and some other things happened in my life... I have come to the point where I feel nothing but hate against humanity and human race.

Life is just a meaningless coincidence... result of long process of evolution and many several factors, causes and effects. However, life is also something that an individual wants and determines it to be. And I'm the dictator and god of my own life. And me, I have chosen my way. I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection.

You might ask yourselves, why did I do this and what do I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and closed-minded to understand... You will proprably say me that I am “insane”, “crazy”, “psychopath”, “criminal” or crap like that. No, the truth is that I am just an animl, a human, an individual, a dissident.

I have had enough. I don’t want to be part of this fucked up society. Like some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth fighting for or saving... only worth killing. But... When my enemies will run and hide in fear when mentioning my name... When the gangsters of the corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can’t alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

I am ready to die for a cause I know is right, just and true... even if I would lose or the battle would be only remembered as evil... I will rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. Don’t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. Don’t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. Don’t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on tracks!

Justice renders to everyone his due.

- Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist). I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Revenge;4021366]He was probably joking.

This is another reason why no one needs to have guns except the law enforcement agencies and the armed forces. What's the current state of affairs in Finland with regard to gun laws? Are people allowed guns for 'personal protection' or other bullshit? Civilians are allowed guns for hunting and sports, this nutter apparently had his his .22 for the latter purpose (he obviously couldn't tell the police he was going to shoot people with it...)




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#7 11 years ago

Luckily there was no more victims, but even one is too much! It just sad that you have to punish other people when things don't go well or your girlfriend leavs you or you get fired from work or people tease you.




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#8 11 years ago

Yup. I agree M0dde. The few ruin it for the many.




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#9 11 years ago
As a gun-nut, I feel that anyone has the right to bear arms. But you have to be responsible enough for it. If not, you deserve your fingers cut off.

I love guns too...but the problem is usually by the time the gun-irresponsible people are identified, it's too late.




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#10 11 years ago
Dr Eero Hirvensalo, the head of the medical response team, told the Reuters news agency that seven or more people had been killed and that the death toll could rise.

So now there are at least seven dead. :(