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Guns4Hire

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#31 12 years ago
Dr.Fritz;3272155Some are homeless because of various reasons. However the majority are not.

Facts or just your opinion?




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#32 12 years ago

I can't drive through town without seeing at least half a dozen "now hiring" signs in the various restaurants and shops. Of course there are some people who are truly shafted by the system. But the great majority of the bums I've seen in and around San Fransisco are either too lazy or too stoned to hold down a job - or both.




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#33 12 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice;3272243 Of course there are some people who are truly shafted by the system. But the great majority of the bums I've seen in and around San Fransisco are either too lazy or too stoned to hold down a job - or both.

Hey. Not all stoners are jobless...;)




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#34 12 years ago

I heard of one bum who was very pleased with himself. Why? Because he had cut down to a mere Eight beers a day. If you chugged down That much fire water, I doubt you would be in any shape to do a job. ;)




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#35 12 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice;3272271I heard of one bum who was very pleased with himself. Why? Because he had cut down to a mere Eight beers a day. If you chugged down That much fire water, I doubt you would be in any shape to do a job. ;)

If he is unemployeed and homeless how is he getting money for 8 beers a day?




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#36 12 years ago
Anlushac11;3272440If he is unemployed and homeless how is he getting money for 8 beers a day?

Hustling... Almost all of them have a hustle. Either they run a sob story on you, or try to sell you something. I see it everyday. I live in a rather large city (3,000,000 residents), and reside downtown. I pass the homeless ever day on my way to work, as I have to walk everywhere. At first, once being on the streets myself, my heart went out to them. Now, I see the same faces, running the same game on the same people. My feelings about the homeless are mixed. It can be VERY easy to quickly be without a home- you have no idea. So, I can understand their situation. Many, I can tell, have been through the same things I have, when it comes to war veterans. I often wonder will I end up like that. Those are the people I feel sorry for- disabled or disturbed people with simply no place to go, and no real way to improve. As far as the main body of the homeless here, they are able-bodied men. They are intelligent enough to get about the city and hustle for money. I say, they are able to make a change. As long as you have 4 limbs, a decent head on your shoulders, and you haven't killed anyone, you can get a job- somewhere. Odds are, you'd have to sleep at a shelter, or make one for the time being, but IT CAN BE DONE. So, for those that fall in to that category, the crackheads, junkies, and others, just looking for another fix and a hand-out, I hold no love for them. They can make a difference, but choose not to. No one's saying it'll be easy. I was kicked out of my home, no where to go. I had to roam the streets for a few weeks. It sucked. I swallowed my pride, went to a shelter. Wore used clothes. Got a job, and saved up for an apartment. I had to start all over, but now I have my own place again. I can pay my bills, barely, but I can pay them all the same. I'm doing a lot better than I was a year ago. Things can turn around, quick. All you have to do is work for what you want. I wanted a roof over my head, a place to call my own. I had to bust my ass to do it, but now I have such a place. It all comes down to motivation. For the most part, the homeless either are too lazy, or gave up hope a long time ago. Either way, I do not feel sorry for them (the able-bodied ones) anymore.




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#37 12 years ago
Anlushac11;3272440If he is unemployeed and homeless how is he getting money for 8 beers a day?

Are you serious? Hmmm, I guess your planet doesn't have welfare or hustling.;)




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#38 12 years ago

Hide them behind buildings and parked cars and dumpsters and keep them out of sight, thereby eliminating the homeless problem forever




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#39 12 years ago

Anluschac11 and beef flaps have said the most what I think. The greatest problem which the homeless people have is a mental one: you just don't get out from depression & despair without a push from the other people and/or from the society (excluding few exceptions).

About getting a job: what many people here don't realize is that you don't always just walk to an employer and get hired, that's not the case. If you have a little more significant illness/pain (like painful leg, lower back hardship etc) or you're over 50-years age, you're considered "undesireable" work canditate and then some other gets the job. Poor or bad credit (like Anlushac11 mentioned) and minor or even nonexistent work experience plays a big role too. But how you get a better credit or work experience if you don't get to work?

Social welfare is a problem only if it isn't supervised & concentrated properly. What the homeless people need is support & constructive aid (like re-training for a new job), not a pointing finger. Generalizing don't help the issue.




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#40 12 years ago
About getting a job: what many people here don't realize is that you don't always just walk to an employer and get hired, that's not the case. If you have a little more significant illness/pain (like painful leg, lower back hardship etc)

If that's the case you can get government aid for your disability - and if you were smart enough to have insurance before the accident/illness you would be getting some more cash

or you're over 50-years age, you're considered "undesireable" work canditate and then some other gets the job. Poor or bad credit (like Anlushac11 mentioned) and minor or even nonexistent work experience plays a big role too. But how you get a better credit or work experience if you don't get to work?

And who's fault is that? Your own. If you're playing a game of chess, and you lose all of your pieces except the pawn and king, even if Bobby Fisher stepped in for you you'd still lose.