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masked_marsoe VIP Member

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#1 12 years ago

This is a thread from the Relander Academy of Serious Topics.

Just wondering, are there big differences in the youth wage and the minimum wage in your countries?

Ours is going up in March, and again in 2008; the youth (16/17s) rate from $7.60 to $8.20 and the minimum (18+) is going from $9.50 to $10.25.

It's one of the things I get annoyed about. There is no good reason why a 17 year old should get paid $2 less every hour than the 18 year old doing the same job.

What do you think?




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#2 12 years ago

good point, those ar actualy good pay rates for a minor. is that US curency or NZ? Could be that some want an older worker so they pay more. I don't know.




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#3 12 years ago

That's NZ$.

Current youth rate: NZ$7.60 - US$5.20 Current adult wage: NZ$9.50 - US$6.45

Changes youth: NZ$8.20 - $5.60 Changes adult: NZ$10.25 - $7

Still, last Friday I'd be getting $2 less than when I came into work on Monday (if I worked that is ;) ).




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#4 12 years ago

ok then that pay sucks. This is somthing to think about.




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#5 12 years ago

It's funny that when the "Minimum Wage" was endorsed by the US government, it was a wage determined on raising a family of four.

Today, a single person cannot live on minimum wage alone.




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#6 12 years ago
nowheremanok then that pay sucks. This is somthing to think about.

For in the US, but prices and conditions here are different. It's not good though, but it can't get any lower than that.

Also, as this affects people in the 16-25 age group, then there are Government benefits available too, if they are uni students, or kicked out of home or something like that.




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#7 12 years ago

That mimimum wage for a teenager sounds pretty decent to me. Yes ofcourse the age factor has it flaws but in general the older you are the more experienced you are and the more you deserve to get payed. Not every 18 year old might be better then a 17 year old and not every 17 year old better then an 18 year old, however age is pretty much the only thing we can monitor objectivly and this base minimum wages on.




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#8 12 years ago

My guess is,its got something to do with resbonsibility,even though that a 18 year isnt more resbonsible than 17 year old,the Law says it is.A bigger difference is between young People and thoose which are over 21.




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#9 12 years ago
masked_marsoeThis is a thread from the Relander Academy of Serious Topics.

Nice, now I just need more people to join in :D

There is no good reason why a 17 year old should get paid $2 less every hour than the 18 year old doing the same job.

It's about legislation: 18 year old is considered as an adult, an independent person who has all social rights, but also social responsibilities, needing more money for independent living (own apartment, own bills etc). On the other hand, semi-independent 17 year old person doesn't need as much money as his/her parents still must take care of him (by law, at least here in Finland) and he/she lives with them. Of course, it's not always that simple but the line must be drawn somewhere.

If I remember correctly, the minimum wage for all workers is something like 6-7 euros (6,5-7,5 $) here in Finland.




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#10 12 years ago

Yes, though there is currently a bill that should start working its way through Parliament to equalise youth pay to the minimum wage level.

In NZ, a student (at least) is considered financially dependant on his/her parents until they're 25. (This is completely rediculous of course.)

And these days, a lot more young people are starting work earlier and going into in-work training. Maybe a third of my last year of high school didn't make it through the year, and a lot of them moved out too.

Often these minimum wages jobs are at supermarkets and service stations, and there's no difference in responibility or maturity there.

More often than not, the youth workers are doing exactly the same job as the adult workers, only getting paid less for it.




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