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Atrusino

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#1 11 years ago

I'd like to know who has actually seen this and what you thought if you have. If you haven't seen it, I think everyone should see this once.. To those who have seen it, have you done any research? How much of it have you found to be true? You may visit the movie's website at: Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007 They do update their mistakes (those that they have made) unlike some politically born documentaries such as The Inconvenient Truth.




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#2 11 years ago

Ah this movie. Loved it! Why? Because it didn’t hold back, or appease the majority with complacency despite all the evidence to the contrary.

The first chapter, I whole heartedly agree with. The second chapter, well I don’t know what happened on 9/11 with any certainty, I wont even speculate, the only thing I do know is that the official story is complete trash (least in my opinion). The official report didn’t even mention Building 7 or the pools of molten steel that were found under all three towers 6 weeks after. Now aren’t those details pretty damn important for an investigation? More then half of all New Yorkers discount or flat out reject the official story and want a new investigation, and more then 80% of the United States Population suspects that they were not told the truth about that day. Least according to polls of varied calibers. Check Gallup and MSNBC. Lastly, the third chapter, it really shined it all up and didn’t leave ya wondering.

My only suggestion to the author would have been to change the chapter sequences. Beginning with a seemingly anti-religious stance throws people with delicate sensibilities into a mode where everything afterwards goes in one ear and out the other. That chapter should have been saved for later.

In regards to proving it wrong. Well I spent a lot of time checking the sources cited on the official site, and in turn the sources of their citations, and in doing my own research Ive found nothing outside of a few typos or contextual mistakes. This film is quite controversial too, so one would expect everyone or anyone too explode all over it, be they professionals or just every day people, but they haven’t. No one has even dented this films implications with any contradicting evidence or statements. I think I know why too. People are afraid too research this films implications further for fears that it might be true. I know I was in that exact same situation myself, and that never really changed, and in the end it’s why I stopped looking. I wasn’t finding anything anywhere. That was a very unsettling feeling.

You’re also right in the fact that the authors do revisions on any errors or mistakes that occur. The movie isn’t meant to mislead. It’s merely meant to wake you up.

I won’t try and bias anyone here with what I found in my research on this film over the last year or so. As if you would even believe me or take my word for it, hahaha. Besides, nothing easy was ever worthwhile… *cough cough* religion *cough*.

Want to know something? Anything? Seek the information yourself. That way, later on, you can’t bitch about the source.




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#3 11 years ago

Yes, I watched it when it was posted in the Religious Discussion thread. All I heard from the theist side was something about sources (doubts of which Sedistix has apparently wiped out). I really can't add anything more than Sedistix has already said, I agree on every point.




Atrusino

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#4 11 years ago
Sedistix;4035541Want to know something? Anything? Seek the information yourself. That way, later on, you can’t bitch about the source.

Thank you for reinforcing a point that I've been trying to make for months..




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#5 11 years ago

I agree with what Sed said, If you do, do you own research you can see how much the movie was right or Wrong. I found some parts little off in terms with the Egyptian Gods. well the whole 9/11 thing well....yeah did undertand it too much.


[color=#000000][size=2][b][i]Heralds of the coming doom, Like the cry of the Raven, we are drawn, This oath of war and vengeance, On a blade of exalted iron sworn, With blood anointed swords



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#6 11 years ago

The beginning chapter I found humerous in the classical sense. They truly went out of their way to form that theory.

I've never agreed w/ organized religion, but that was from common sense, I didn't need that stuffed down my throat.




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#7 11 years ago

I personally took into account the fact that I have faith and no documentary would ever change that.. What did you think of the 9/11, IRS and NAU bits?




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#8 11 years ago
I personally took into account the fact that I have faith and no documentary would ever change that.. What did you think of the 9/11, IRS and NAU bits?

Even IF, and I stress the word if, Jesus Christ didn't exist, or wasn't a prophet, it doesn't sway the arguement of God. All they did (the creators of this film) is slap double-talk onto a conspiracy theory.

It truley was double talk. The mythology behind The Bible is no where NEAR relevant to actual belief in God. They out-right called religion lies, and that everyone who believes thereof are nothing but sheep. I wanted to strangle the God-damned - I mean that literally - narrator.

As for the 9/11 BS, I shut the movie down a few minutes into the second chapter. I've seen enough conspiracy documents, and they've ALL been debunked by REAL scientistis. Not these wannabe paranoid freaks.




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#9 11 years ago

Try doing some actual research.. You'll turn up some very intersting things.. The most profoundly astonishing so far for me has been that the plane hat supposedly hit the pentagon 'Vaporized'... Ask any 'real' scientist.. It's a physical impossibility.. In the modern world of science, it simply can't happen.