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Ensign Riles VIP Member

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#1 13 years ago

I seem to like attempting intellectual suicide which involves trying to ostracize oneself from a majority through possession of ideology that is contrary to to the beliefs of the masses... (Generally involves the arrogance of mankind, and strange rants on how we are pixels) Seems to work too. Some of my teachers think I am truly retarded as I never speak nor share true beliefs. Those that truly know me keep away... :evilgrin: In chronological order:

Killing yourself is not a good thing as it is the final thing that ends your life. Ending your life is not happy, unlike many Disney movies which are happy. Ending your life would thus not create a Disney movie because:

Killing yourself = Death Death = Sad Sad does not equal happy Therefore sad does not equal Disney movie and ultimately Killing yourself does not equal Disney movie.

Therefore you should think again about suicide as no Disney movie will result from it. Therefore it would be bad economics and ultimately illogical. Then again I am not logical so it would be illogical for me to say something logical thus creating an endless paradox. Then again a paradox is usually endless so it was pointless to say "endless paradox" as that is a double positive which is opposite of a double negative.

Speaking of opposites, what is the average of nothing and everything?

It cannot be something as something is a part of everything and not a part of nothing. You cannot have it be closer to one or the other, so I ask you, what is the average of nothing and everything?

Insane is a relative term.

Cra·zy adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est 1. Affected with madness; insane.

Now, if we look at the word insane, you will get the following definition:

1 : mentally disordered

Of course during procreation the majority of the offspring born are "normal". Of course every so often you have a case of brilliance or extreme stupidity. These tend to make up the minority of the species, otherwise they generally are too weak to live to pass on their genes and eventually die. The remaining are classified as abnormal. There are two forms of abnormality, you have the positive and negative category. With humans this doesn't really exist, the intelligent tend to be lacking in physical strength and/or attractiveness, while the others are just plain stupid. Neither traits are very favorable and they become labeled with a stereotypical name such as "different". Over time, society has degraded and people become more vulgar. Soon terms like insane pop up. Since most of the normal people are degrading in intelligence, but are still above plain stupidity, they find comfort in calling others insane. They fear being overcome by the brains of the abnormal group, so they become scapegoats, often branded as greedy tyrants. The stupid people are simply seen as inferior.

Well, over time the idiots and the Einsteins become dependent on each other for survival. The intelligent ones create cures for the defective genes, while the metaphorically reborn genetically enhanced humans protect the geniuses. They become even more powerful, but once again, they are the minority and are still labeled as insane or crazy.

As we can see, these people are clearly more intelligent than the majority of stupid people, but are still called crazy. Please know that simply because you are insane does not mean you are stupid, simply feared.

I mean no offense towards anyone, but I find that there is a general lack of empathy here, everyone seems to think only though the ideas in which they believe. While that is fine, there needs to be an understanding of others. Without being impartial what we choose the hear from others is obviously going to be biased towards our own ideas. As a result nothing new is truly learned, and it can thus be said you have chosen to be voluntarily ignorant. I have always believed that is the lowest "state" anything can achieve, and it would be really good if we could all try and change this.

A short story, if you will:

One day two friends were walking by a river. "Look at the fish swimming about," said the first friend, "They are really enjoying themselves."

"You are not a fish," replied the other, "So you can't truly know that they are enjoying themselves."

"You are not me," said the first friend, "So how can you say that I do not know that the fish are enjoying themselves?"

I find that too often we are usually one friend or the other. One believes they know what others are thinking, or completely understand what they are trying to say. The other is always skeptical and never really trys to open his mind to the infinite number of things that could have made his friend make such a statement.

Now, I won't get into the ideal utopia, as that would take up quite a few pages, but I will briefly describe what I would believe to be beneficial to our relationshiops on this forum. First nothing should ever be taken at face value. Communication between people is in essence worthless. Not all of us think in words, and we therefore have no way of communicating what we truly are thinking. Words simply do not convey the tones, colors, and depth of our thoughts, you simply cannot have a spoken spectrum like that. Thoughts are not "definite", they never have corresponding words. Even if there were, it would be like the color spectrum in Photoshop, it would simply be too limiting as each color has to be represented by a definite pixel, and you simply cannot comprehend of an infinte number of pixels and combinations which still would be a definite amount.

I would continue, and perhaps I will again some day, but in the end I would like us to stop thinking we really know what is going on. It simply is arrogant to suggest that we can learn so much when in essence each one of us is a small pixel which can only hold so much on a canvas that is infintely large and filled with so many other pixels just like ourselves...

As one final note, I know this post is filled with contradictions, but again, language is so limiting when it comes to even trying to express the most basic of thoughts.

With this I bid you a good night.

I find it interesting to see how the two thought systems that I use in my life both support and contradict each other. For lack of creativity I shall call them acceptalism and PSId (Pursuit of Knowledge/id). First I think it would obviously be important to briefly explain the two and hope you see them in a similar manner as me.

Acceptalism I shall use my ever annoying pixel/picture analogy to help explain this one. A pixel is the smallest image-forming unit of a video display. Without it there would be no picture. Without a picture, there is no pixel. We are each like a pixel. Together we form part of a picture. While you can have a few pixels taken away and not noticeably affect the picture in its entirety, there still is that small piece missing. The picture is incomplete. However, what if those missing pixels had never existed in the first place? Would the picture be incomplete? The answer in the most blunt of answer would be no, because it never was a part of that picture. Unfortunately we really are like pixels, we are small and insignificant. We really only know what we think we know. The fabric of our knowledge is biased beyond belief because it all comes from the human mind. How can you possibly try to explain something like the mind with observations from the mind? In essence we really do know nothing. We also have no power over our own actions. We are forever in the present, it is impossible for us to be physically or mentally in any state at any other point in time. What has happened in the past has happened, there is nothing you can do about it. That time you raised your hand in class you had your hand at a certain distance from the ground. Your hand shall always remain in that position. You made a choice to have it in that location instead of a few microns to the left. Or did you? ... *Unfinished*

I do not believe there should be a compulsory or uniform education system like we currently have in the United States. Instead, I believe people should be free to explore the world and learn what they need on their own. Of course some basics must be taught to make communication between people smooth with no conflicts. Basics could include reading, writing, math, etc. The essentials for communication.

People should be free to direct their own lives, learning what they wish. As they progress their lives as a human being they would constantly be contributing to the global pool of information, whether it be something new they have discovered such as a new theory in science, or pure philosophy. All of this would be contributed to some sort of global pool where others could draw information in which they would eventually use to be able to add their own individuality to the global pool.

Of course this would cause conflicts with almost any lifestyle and government that exists today. People would be constantly moving around the Earth and possibly beyond in pursuit of knowledge and other activities. With this there could be no "central" government as keeping track of that many people would virtually be impossible. Instead there should be a local and global groups that would monitor the progress of people. The people of the local "government" would be the people who lived in that area, regardless of how long they have lived there. In essence they would be governing themselves. They would determine how to allot resources to people required in this pursuit of knowledge. The higher priority would be given to those who contribute the most to the global pool. The local governments would communicate with other groups and thus create the global government which would direct the people to events that may advance human civilization "forward". They would also respond to emergencies such as natural disasters. With a unified group things can be achieved much faster due to the communication factor.

While this collective may sound like it is void of individuality, you must remember that a digital image when seen as a whole is one thing that directs your attention in a certain way. When looking at the pixels you would really see each dot of color as being unique, and important. Without the pixel there would be no picture. However, without the picture the individual pixels are ultimately "worthless", they have no goal, no reason to exist.

With what was said above, that is why I believe that society should find a balance between self-sufficiency and reliance on others. If people cannot learn to be self-sufficient they cannot succeed in this society because they have nothing to contribute. That is why I believe that people should learn to find themselves through a sort of isolation. I have found that simply sitting in a forest has been extremely effective when trying to think. A forest is just one type of ecosystem where you can see all of those "pixels" and the "picture" at the same time. You can see the individual creatures and objects interacting. A squirrel climbs a tree, for example. At the same time you can see everything going on at once which makes up that ecosystem. The air blowing through the trees providing them with life, in turn giving the squirrels a place to climb and find food in return giving the predators food, etc. The entire process works in one single action of simply being.

As a side note it is interesting to see how everything seems to exist as a pixel and picture at once. Even in the simplest things that exist have that property. A rock for example is made up of multiple minerals which are made up of atoms which are made up of even smaller things. In the rocks case everything "smaller" than it makes the rock, or in the analogy, the picture. However, the rock also becomes the pixel. The rock is just one thing among others such as soil, water, etc which makes up a landscape. That landscape is home to many types of ecosystems and communities. While these communities don’t have physical boundaries, they do change even over infinitely small measurements of space. This may seem to contradict my pixel/picture belief in that a pixel is made of a definite size. However, you still must remember what is within that space in the pixel. It isn’t just color, the color is influenced by light. Color simply cannot exist without light, but it could be argued that light cannot survive without color to define it.

Again, it is all about the mutually beneficial relationships between everything. Each individual relationship influences others, and soon it becomes a web of relationships, whether direct or indirect.

A Rant On People And Their Ways

Schools are the most arrogant of institutions created by man. They are created in attempt to create a higher level of thinking in people, but unbeknownst to so-called students, it has the opposite effect. People believe they are superior to all else, everything can be conquered. They couldn’t be more wrong. To gain knowledge is to lose wisdom. Knowledge is meaningless. All knowledge comes from the human senses, and how could a so called intelligent person not find that disturbing? We try and explain all that is not human through observations; physical observations conjured by the physical senses of an animal (To put it in the offensive term created by people to classify other living organisms made of flesh [To put it bluntly]). Tell me, if you were a simple sparrow, what would you know of human achievements? What would you know of culture and learning, and all things said to be only human traits? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Your mind would be too “small” to comprehend such things.

With that, how can a human possibly try to understand things that are not what can be found in the depths of the natural human mind when left unexposed to the so-called higher level of thinking? It is like the pixel trying to understand the painting. The pixel is small, rather insignificant and requires all other pixels in order to have a meaningful existence. That pixel is too small to understand the scope of the painting and all of its colors and meaning. We are nothing but individual pixels, all we must know is that without all that is not human, we would not exist for there is nothing to give the infinitely few pixels meaning, they are nothing but little dots in nonexistence. At the same time we try and conquer the physical world and claim to know all that can be known about it. What arrogance to think we really are so capable of being able to understand the scope of the “painting” of reality.

We think in linear terms, time is linear, movement is linear, everything is as it is seen. We never go beyond the physical, we say we do, but it is impossible to understand anything else. In actuality, we can’t even understand the physical for we only have human senses. Hardly an impartial way of trying to understand everything.

What I am writing is hypocrisy beyond belief. However, it is an obligation that I feel that I must undertake to inform others of the errors of their ways, even if I myself have no understanding in those mistakes which they make.

As I sit typing this I feel sickened to hear the conversation going around me. The awful social interactions that people feel are important to leading a healthy life (HA! What is life anyway?). I hear two girls speaking of a birthday (What a horrid word, used incorrectly and too often by the majority). For tens of minutes there is talk of nothing but indulgences in pleasure such as what they will do in a vacation in Mexico, how much money they will spend, and what a waste of time it is to drive when you can hire someone else to chauffer you. These people are weak; they would not be able to survive without social interaction or pleasures of the mind and body. They must seek these things continually, it’s disgusting. They never even bother to use that “higher level of being” that they claim to have. If they did, they would see the fruitlessness of their endeavors and how insignificant they really are. I would assume they aren’t even capable of truly comprehending what it would be like to be in another location at the current time, let alone what life really is.

I hate the fact that I am constrained to living this life among these people, these mere pixels in an infinitely large painting of so much, and yet so little, meaning. To think of what true knowledge of what that painting really is would be a death sentence issued faster than what is considered the possible. Ha! At least I take some comfort in the humor of people classifying “future” actions as either possible or impossible. The mere thought of such ignorance and arrogance (To think they know what to call anything beyond the metaphysical of the mind) is just too funny. You know what the greatest irony would be? Well, I shall tell. If I was to partake in laughter in the library at this time due to the humor I mentioned a few sentences ago, I would be ostracized from this location due to my interfering in the learning of others. To think that their conversations are considered “learning”, and my rant on them is not allowed in such an educational place is too much for me, so I shall end this here, both for reasons of schedule and of laughter.



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#2 13 years ago

What's that creature in your sig and where is it from?




Ensign Riles VIP Member

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#3 13 years ago

It's my attempt at a self portrait...




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#4 13 years ago

i am already dead.




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#5 13 years ago

That reminds me of this oh so many years ago... ;)

Aegyou worry me in a very bad way :s..... i almost killed myself half way through that ramble winkx.gif



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#6 13 years ago

how did you find that? :|




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#7 13 years ago

Is it me, or has everyone totally lost their mind lately (no offense)?




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#8 13 years ago
AegenemmnoNhow did you find that? :|

I remember things like that...




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#9 13 years ago
AegenemmnoNhow did you find that? :|

i remember you saying that. i also seem to remember riles digging it back up like this and you responding in the same way.

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#10 13 years ago

Riles, I can completely relate to your first couple of quotes, after which I just thought "no way in hell am I going to read that" and skipped. Suicide thoughts do ultimately spawn Disney movies! And I FRIGGING HATE DISNEY MOVIES. THEY DOMINATE MY WEEKEND TV PROGRAM. So badly that I am willing to shove a spoon up my arse. If something is going to hurt me that badly, I'm going to do it to myself. ...I like chicken.


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