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Daniiren

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#1 9 years ago

I got DOW II on release day, brought it home, only to find out that I have to install Steam to play the game. I've played it every day since they released it, and on two occasions has the game launched instantly. Generally I have to wait for at least 20 minutes for it to do some stupid crap. Sure, they may patch it shortly after release, but don't give me any BS about patching it every day. Therefore, Steam cannot be downloading patches because Relic can't be releasing a patch every day. Someone tell me this: why won't Steam start the game when I want play it? I paid 50 bucks for this game, I don't want to have to wait for half an hour every time I want to play it. This is the first experience I have had with Steam and it seriously sucks balls. I would rather have DRM like Spore or Mass Effect and be able to launch the game whenever than to have to wait to launch it. It's not like I'm playing online and need to wait for servers. I'm still enjoying the single player campaign. Is it just me, or does Steam fail epically?




XPhile

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#2 9 years ago

No, you're one of many people who need to get off the "STEAM IS STUPID, POINTLESS AND USELESS. IT MAKES DOW II SUCK BALLS AND RELIC FAILS BY USING IT.." etc. It goes on and on.

First of all, Steam is not useless nor does it fail epically. It's the future and like the DVD, it takes getting used to. It may be complicated at first but just because you've never used it or bothered to read the support site or even mention what the "stupid crap" you have to wait twenty minutes for. Relic has released, I believe, three patches. The first was the 0-Day patch, then the patch for the SP campaign hotfix, and the last one was to fix the square text in the "News" tab. The only reason it was so big was Relic's mistake of including extra files that had been patched already and thus making the file larger.

Also, if you go into a store and pick up a game, do you really just grab it and pay it? Do you even bother reading the specs, specifically the part where it clearly states you need to activate via Steam and register it there? Seriously, stop blaming Relic or Steam for your ignorance.

On a final note, Relic only used Steam because of the constant whining they got from the DoW sega. "OMFG RELIC, PATCH THIS FFS" and variations was your typical answer to anything. Now Relic tries to improve and the people like you in the community are unhappy. Again. I repeat, stop blaming Relic and solve your own damn issues.




N24Reporter

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#3 9 years ago

I blame Relic for using GfWL for matchmaking. That 3rd party software is so useless and buggy.... it just fails on everything from user friendly inputs to immersive displays and configurability.




Primarch Vulkan VIP Member

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#4 9 years ago

I love steam, It updates my games..it installs the files for me I don't need the disk! Steam makes me all Steamy!


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Junk angel

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#5 9 years ago

Steam - overall like. But just have on really really big gripe with it. While it doesn't matter with FPS games as there's no real ranked. If you're playing ranked and steam disconencts due to a steam client update - bye bye game

I blame Relic for using GfWL for matchmaking. That 3rd party software is so useless and buggy.... it just fails on everything from user friendly inputs to immersive displays and configurability.

GFWL>>>gamespy. Just so freaking much. Love the join friends feature and a few others. Only thing I despise is the lack of a lobby system and the lack of user selected refresh. Which are both supposed to be added into the game.




Galewind

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#6 9 years ago

lol he said balls.




Darth Zion

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#7 9 years ago

XPhile;4817623No, you're one of many people who need to get off the "STEAM IS STUPID, POINTLESS AND USELESS. IT MAKES DOW II SUCK BALLS AND RELIC FAILS BY USING IT.." etc. It goes on and on.

First of all, Steam is not useless nor does it fail epically. It's the future and like the DVD, it takes getting used to.

Not that I want to fall into that category mentioned above but I'll give you my two cents on why I dislike steam.

First of all, steam takes up quite a bit of memory. Now this shouldn't be a problem on all of the newest pc but those that are a little outdated suffer greatly. I have three computers, one of them does not have a dual or quad core and while running steam on it almost half of my cpu gets drained by it, hence I removed steam and placed it on the newer ones.

Second, the agreement you have to sign for using steam is just absurd, I know that basically every bit of software comes with one of those user agreements but Valve has the right to ban your account (including all the games that are registered on it) without giving prior notice or an explanation as to why the account was banned. Even when asking support personal about this it will only result in the answer: We are not allowed to disclose such information. While this may be an effective tool in rooting out cheaters this system can also easily be abused if combined with Valve's report feature. I've seen it happen a dozen of times that skilled gamers get banned because they managed to get an abnormal score with mostly head shots (made by sniper rifles) and whining kids go yelling H@xx0r! and send a million reports to Valve about how this is impossible without cheating.

I just dislike the system because of it, steam should leave the banning system on server scale instead of account scale. Imagine having an account with over 30 games and you get banned because a group of kids can't stand losing?

I have nothing against online distribution but neither Windows Live, or Steam are programs that I'd want in it.




N24Reporter

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#8 9 years ago
Junk angel;4818171 GFWL>>>gamespy. Just so freaking much. Love the join friends feature and a few others. Only thing I despise is the lack of a lobby system and the lack of user selected refresh. Which are both supposed to be added into the game.

And Steam is much better than GfWL, that's why I don't understand why they needed GfWL in the first place. Steam lets you join friends in games and mods and has statsranking as well. And it is 100% more stable for me than GfWL. Plus it is way more userfriendly, one click lets you join a friends game, no need for invitation mails and all that crap. If your gameversions are different, then Steam will even update you to his version! Now that's what I call userfriendly!

Ok Steam isn't the holy grale, as most things concerning it's DRM and sales policies are discutable, but all in all it is a good thing to have.




Junk angel

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#9 9 years ago

First of all, steam takes up quite a bit of memory. Now this shouldn't be a problem on all of the newest pc but those that are a little outdated suffer greatly. I have three computers, one of them does not have a dual or quad core and while running steam on it almost half of my cpu gets drained by it, hence I removed steam and placed it on the newer ones.

Second, the agreement you have to sign for using steam is just absurd, I know that basically every bit of software comes with one of those user agreements but Valve has the right to ban your account (including all the games that are registered on it) without giving prior notice or an explanation as to why the account was banned. Even when asking support personal about this it will only result in the answer: We are not allowed to disclose such information. While this may be an effective tool in rooting out cheaters this system can also easily be abused if combined with Valve's report feature. I've seen it happen a dozen of times that skilled gamers get banned because they managed to get an abnormal score with mostly head shots (made by sniper rifles) and whining kids go yelling H@xx0r! and send a million reports to Valve about how this is impossible without cheating.

THQ+money form MS. What else? MS is desperately trying to find a flagship for GFWL. And it's probably trying to fit Dow 2 into this category.

As to steam and resources - a lot of resources? Since when? It's using about 8 megs at minimised and idle.

Not to mention - If I have a choice between Securom and other potentionally rootkit like protections, and steam, I will pick steam.




Darth Zion

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#10 9 years ago
Junk angel;4819245If I have a choice between Securom and other potentionally rootkit like protections, and steam, I will pick steam.

Who said have have to choose either? There are plenty of games out there that have almost no copy protection at all, some of those even had more sales because of it. I really believe that all that piracy protection is leading no where except maybe agitation amongst legit users since illegal users will always find a way to hack/crack copy protection making the entire thing pointless. It's an endless loop :uhoh:, they bring out new copy protection and crackers just take a few days at most to crack it.

Freedom is often the best choice, users themselves will realise that if they want proper support for their games and if they want quality games they are going to have to buy them.

What we have now is most of the development money going to copy protection instead of the game itself. Making the entire experience of gaming worse for both developer and gamer alike.




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