Why Ea why!
Couldn't they build this into battle of britain?
Germans who land on british soil die. Die. Not run around the factory shooting all the british engies with machine guns. The level lags around the factory with too many planes, but that wouldn't be a problem if you didn't have to constantly defend against a german land army too. 10 engies fixing the factory take on 4 sub machine gun wielding germans who've flown over and decided to bail out in an effort to help the team...funnily enough, I don't remeber germans landing in Britain and killing off people in mass ammounts, mabey Ea does, but would it be against the law of common sense to have a rule that states that A) The germans die upon landing on british soil, or B) Germans can not bail out of a plane in the air, and can only get out of a plane which has fully landed. It's all very well having objective based maps, but when you have a bunch of people that HAVE TO be grouped round an objective, and getting camped, what's the point. For shame.
I agree to that and EA should also have done something so that anything the radar sees everyone else sees too
Yea, but i dont think anyone is surprised of this, come on guys Ea made it.
I expected this from the get-go. I knew you'd have people bailing out of nearly-wrecked planes, so as allied soldiers, you must be prepared to handle this contingency. Have a few assault troops hanging around important areas to deal with enemy grunts. With luck, they'll be taken out by their own side's bombing runs. When no grunts are present, assaults should man AAA.
Could I suggest a bit of compromise. Instead of having 10 engineers have 5 engineers and 5 assault protecting the factory. The assault man the AA guns unless the eng calls for help or they see para's. I think it's a matter of tactics, getting everything right. The British can also camp the Axis simply by flying across the channel and bombing the crap out of every plane that spawns, there's very little air defense over there and all those axis soldiers standing around waiting for a plane to spawn make lovely targets. Using that method you could pin the axis to their side of the channel no problem and give yourselves more time to repair the factory and radar towers.
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I really think there should be a tactics thread, so people can discuss what works and what doesn't. Then again I tried that and the only response I got was "If you want tactics join a F***ing clan!"
From my experience on the Xtra BoB Server (New Zealand) its not that much of a problem. People are bailing all the time but are usually quickly shot anyway -- a Engy rifle isn't all that useless, especially at long range.
If it becomes a serious problem and you end up quickly dying by Assault Rifle weilding germans then you simply change class and deal with them. I don't usually have any prefences to what I do in the game, so I do whats ever needed. If the entire team is Engys i'll go Assault and try to provide some security on the ground.
EA should have made it so German's can't bail or they have no weapons except for planes and aa. Best way to deal with the campers is to expack them, but then you have to listen to the whiners complaining about how you 'cheated'. Also a tactic for BoB is, if a building needs repairs badly and your out of repair, take the packs of the dead engineers by it and use theirs. That has helped out a few times in games where a ju88 would kill everyone but 1 or 2 at a target, with 3 or 4 dead engineer's packs you can repair a target really good by yourself.
I don't think it's really fair to blame EA for people's lack of teamwork in a game that was created with that understanding.Remember Coral Sea? and it was always a five min map cause no one wanted to defend and repair the carrier,they would always plane camp just to end up crashing on the carrier ladder or each other.It is called teamwork and you have to find a right mix of what is needed.You could ask others to change their class to fix,defend or attack or do it yourself and change.Don't yell and call everyone tards or idiots that will get you nowhere,but try to foster that teamwork.I actually like this map as it does foster the "teamwork" and idiots will get tired of it soon and the teamplayers can get down to business and have a challenge.
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Coral Sea is still fairly popular, here in New Zealand we've got 1 dedicated server to it and its nearly always got a decent amount of people in it (1 may not seem like much, but only a country of 4 million)
What i've noticed with Coral Sea is it tends to attract the good, teamwork kinda player. Smacktards seem to get quickly bored of the various ways to be a smacktard and leave. Early on there were plenty, but now when I join the Coral Sea server I tend to have quite long games. Everyone tends to repair the carrier before taking a plane. Of course there is nights when theres smacktards in it, but overall its quite good.
so...yea I agree with you Stooge. Thats what I think BoB will do, If you don't work together on that map you die quite quickly. Smacktards have a short attention span and will probably find the map boring after a while.