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#1 15 years ago

Realism is a big issue in 1942...

When you shoot a rocket launcher at a guy, he won't die unless it is a direct hit. It takes several (4-5) shots w/ a sniper rifle just to kill the guy!

And the pistol is the weakest of them all, it takes virtually a whole clip to waste someone...

I am not saying 1942 is a horrible game, but pointing out some issues that need to be taken care of... thx

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1st_Lt_Luke

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#2 15 years ago

hmm, maybe dice and ea should make a separate patch for you realism wanters, and a regular patch for us people who love the damn game as it is




Dr. Yoshi

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#3 15 years ago

I agree that there are some things that need fixing weaponwise but I would prefer that DICE would concentrate on something else like improving the netcode, making a GUI for the voting system, or perhaps even a SDK.




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#4 15 years ago

I think you can beg all you like jeffbrak, but the ppl are only going to make a game or mod they think is good. Also consider this, it takes at most 2 good shots to kill a guy using a sniper rifle (and 1 head shot), but it will take 4 or 5 bad shots - and more if the guy is a medic healing himself. Many is the time I have been killed with one shot from a sniper.

I have killed ppl with pistol, but if you're both jumping around like rabbits the game is designed to make it damn hard to get them. Try sneaking up behind sniper, putting pistol to his head and going bang, he doesn't live long.

The problem with ultimate realism is this, you walk round the corner of the building and meet a bloke with a gun in his hand, he gets off one shot and you're dead. Respawn time - you appear, sniper gets off one bullet and you are dead, sigh - respawn, this time you walk ten feet, guy driving tank drop shell into middle of compound, you're dead - respawn etc, can get pretty boring after a while.

A lot of ppl hate the Berlin scenario cause of this fact, if you only control 1 spawn point then it's respawn - die, respawn - die, respawn - die over and over again till you're team capture another point, and quite often it's just luck that decides the game.

Remember that as far as realism is concerned the allies stormed Omaha Beach with ten of thousands of troops, dozens of ships shelling the Germans, they had floating tanks (at least they floated for a short while - just long enough to get to shore - sometimes :lol: ), half tracks etc. If we had ultimate realism on Omaha Beach with just 32 players on the allies side they wouldn't even get to the beach, most axis would go sniper, the rest on the fixed machine guns, and pick all the allies off before they could dry thier feet.

My opinion, for what it's worth is, gameplay is more important than realism.

Have fun

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#5 15 years ago

yeah realism would be great but i agree 100% with what apocalypse_kid said. could not have said it better myself.




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#6 15 years ago

Originally posted by apocalypse_kid I think you can beg all you like jeffbrak, but the ppl are only going to make a game or mod they think is good. Also consider this, it takes at most 2 good shots to kill a guy using a sniper rifle (and 1 head shot), but it will take 4 or 5 bad shots - and more if the guy is a medic healing himself. Many is the time I have been killed with one shot from a sniper. I have killed ppl with pistol, but if you're both jumping around likerabbits the game is designed to make it damn hard to get them. Try sneaking up behind sniper, putting pistol to his head and going bang, he doesn't live long. The problem with ultimate realism is this, you walk round the corner of the building and meet a bloke with a gun in his hand, he gets off one shot and you're dead. Respawn time - you appear, sniper gets off one bullet and you are dead, sigh - respawn, this time you walk ten feet, guy driving tank drop shell into middle of compound, you're dead - respawn etc, can get pretty boring after a while. A lot of ppl hate the Berlin scenario cause of this fact, if you only control 1 spawn point then it's respawn - die, respawn - die, respawn - die over and over again till you're team capture another point, and quite often it's just luck that decides the game. Remember that as far as realism is concerned the allies stormed Omaha Beach with ten of thousands of troops, dozens of ships shelling the Germans, they had floating tanks (at least they floated for a short while - just long enough to get to shore - sometimes :lol: ), half tracks etc. If we had ultimate realism on Omaha Beach with just 32 players on the allies side they wouldn't even get to the beach, most axis would go sniper, the rest on the fixed machine guns, and pick all the allies off before they could dry thier feet. My opinion, for what it's worth is, gameplay is more important than realism. Have fun :cya: :cya: :cya:

100% realism would be gay, but a balance between both realism and gameplay would be acceptable...

I guess i was doing crappy shots w/ the sniper rifle...

But yes, your correct, gameplay is more important that realism...

What they DO need to fix is that lame Coral Sea bug, when people fly "into" the ship, and nobody can see him... :(

Also, this may sound silly, but how realistic is the soldier9 realism mod?




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#7 15 years ago

How about hits causing damage depending where u are hit, leg shot u walk slower, arm shot aim is shite, gut shot u wobble about untill healed or die slowly, Head shot er well u get a 3rd eye :) and i wanna see blood trails so i can track the person i wounded.. :)




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#8 15 years ago

Damage done by pistols and rifles need to be fixed. When I unload a pictol clip into the back of a enemy and he can still turn around and waste me with his submachine gun something needs fixing. In the real world a single 45cal bullet will permanently get your attention. A full clip will give you definite lead poisoning.:(




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#9 15 years ago
Originally posted by Dr. Yoshi I agree that there are some things that need fixing weaponwise but I would prefer that DICE would concentrate on something else like improving the netcode, making a GUI for the voting system, or perhaps even a SDK.

On the Omaha Beach scenario it would help if the Americans/Germans ratio was maintained by the server on a 2/1 ratio and the weapons were a little more deadly. It would be a little closer to relaity. In the real world the offense to defense ratio should be 3 to 1 otherwise the chances of success are dramatically low. This would not work in the game but it needs to be put into perspective.




Dr. Yoshi

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#10 15 years ago

You wouldn't need a patch for that, just change the server's settings and make a simple mod to increase the damage




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