Merciless's Input of the 1.4 patch!! -1 reply

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Jesse James26

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#1 16 years ago

Anyone have Ea's e mail i have something i want to send them.

"A note on cheating and exploits -- we've all seen how cheating can destroy the gameplay experience for everyone. EA and DICE take cheating seriously and we are taking an aggressive stance in preventing exploits which allow people to cheat. The biggest source of all BF cheats and exploits are client-side modifications. With the release of patch 1.4, we are disabling all client-side mods. Unfortunately, this means that the client side mods that aren't used for cheating will also be affected. DICE and EA have spent the past few months trying to engineer a solution which allows client-side mods to work while stopping the cheats. Ultimately it proved impossible to do so in such a way that prevented future client side mods from opening up new methods of cheating and exploitation. However, this doesn't mean that all mods are unusable. By making the mods into full server-side mods (Desert Combat for example), everyone can experience the cool factor that these mods offer." ~ Taken from their weekly post today on the www.Battlefield1942.com website.

Let me tell you how this this will now work - No cheats! Good ... I am sick of them... and sick of what TOADPEON has DONE TO RUIN OUR MOD and the work of many other honest modders! This will instantly shut down websites like www.bf1942files.com They now have no reason to exist... 3rd party mods were their existance. If you use or have modded sounds for 1942, if you have made any 3rd party textures for Desert Combat or 1942 or ANYTHING ELSE... these are being ceased.

If you are trying to learn modding and just starting... you have not no reason to unless you are working for a large server side mod. Thanks to cheaters exploiting skin swaps and other means of cheating... every honest 1942 player and modder are now being effected.

There was a solution sent to Dice how to resolve this scenario. This explained the problem, a solution. It involved MOD SECURE RFAs. This allowed each and every modder to compile their own RFA with a security setting. Client side mods can still exist this way! Cheats will not exist this way! Every mod would be secure this way! Dice would only have to release a secure version of their RFA compiler and decompiler for the mod community. Also they change their 1942 and XPack1 RFA security. All security is secret. Once a modder like Desert Combat has this Secure RFA compiler, they input their secret code and compile their RFAs. Now no other group or person can uncompile their RFAs without this code. Dice can do the EXACT same thing for 1942, Road to Rome and Secret Weapons. The existance of the Merciless 1942 as a client side mod at that level is to be determined but all client side mods would be secure and cheating would not exist... all server side RFAs would be secured and looking for their own security codes.

This is the solution that was presented to Dice last month. This is the solution, that I personally feel that they never took the time or even looked at to consider as an overall solution to this massive issue.

Now Merciless 1942 has 2 choices... either go server side or close. YOU as the fans have 2 choices... either accept this or protest this plan from Dice and REQUEST MOD SECURE RFAs!

The fate of Merciless 1942 may rest in your hands. We do not want to go server side. We DO WANT TO BE 100% CHEAT FREE. There is a solution.... Dice and EA know this, but have chosen to not support it.... thus have chosen to not support our team or our fans or all the honest modders in the community.

Version 4.0 was so close to beta... even this weekend... over 500 hours in the making... and now this... If you support our mod secure RFA theory... please send email to Dice or EA regarding this... Please post in all the 1942 forums... only you can stop this...

Sorry... this is not Good Friday... >:( :mad:




SgtTallman

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#2 16 years ago

I already emailed EA. We as a community must let them now how we feel. I'm already ready to go back to RTCW if I have to. And this will probably **** up Gunslinger's sound mod too won't it? This is horrible. Skin cheats aren't even the biggest problem. Anti-recoil, speedhacks, and aimbots are the real problem. God, even Valve never stopped support for custom skins on Cstrike. I've said it once and I'll say it again; Fûck EA!!!




Gamingboy

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28th November 2002

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#3 16 years ago

I'm still wondering, what about SMALL Total Conversions, like the Spy Mod I'm working on. Since they're is probably NO CHANCE it'll become as big as DC. But, yeah... I am wondering what they're E-mail is.




derFuhrer

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#4 16 years ago

I can live with losing skins, Merciles and texture mods for that, I'm sick of the cheaters. You can still expect mods like Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope, Eve of Destruction, Soldier9 realism.

Live with it, Merciles had their good days, now for 1.4, I think it's the end of it UNLESS a server hosts the Merciles mod which will allow the client side to use Merciles.




derFuhrer

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#5 16 years ago
Originally posted by SgtTallman I already emailed EA. We as a community must let them now how we feel. I'm already ready to go back to RTCW if I have to.

DO you play on punkbuster and pure servers? I've never been able to use custom skins, mods on those type of servers in RTCW, how is that different from this new feature EA is doing?




Oldschool

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#6 16 years ago

derFuhrer, not everyone is like you, and some people just can't forget merciless creations! And you must be really unlucky, cause i haven't run into any cheaters yet. And then, what cheats are there for battlefield. Wallhack cheat is gone, there are no aimbots for battlefield, no speedhacks, no walking in air cheats, no cheats for infinate ammo, no instant kill cheats, no walking into walls cheat, no being able to shoot in water cheats, no changing class when still alive cheat, no god mode cheats, no shooting through wall cheats, etc. Look at CS, full of hackers, but nothing is done about it. Look at battlefield, a few minor cheats( and yes, they are minor, go play cs and you will agree with me), and EA and Dice go crazy about it, and say, "Hey, lets all go crazy and become lame smacktards and lets ruin the modding community!" Even RTCW had even worse cheats and hacks! But they have that lame punkbuster thing now, which I am happy EA is not going to use.




J-MAD-INC

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#7 16 years ago

You know what guys. EA is creating this patch so they can run things. Do you guys actually think EA wants mods out there, No they dont. come on they cant keep up. they see all the good shit the fans make. and they want to release a stupid ass secret wepons mod which they call expansion that cost 20 bucks. i say stick with dc s9r mercilless and all other i enjoy plaing the mods. but because of thoes (STUPID A S S F U C K I N G CHEATERS) that have nothing else to do with their life, but be a dumb F U C K. i think we should support anything the modders. and the legit players and skinners. this is EA e mail [email]eagamesonline@ea.com[/email]. If we get enough people to speak up thier should be a better way to resolve this.




WHDACV

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#8 16 years ago

i dont care about cheaters i dont play much online because of cheaters so i mod and run my own server with my mod and play with friends or family that way as i dont know how to do textures or standardMesh then i must rely on others to do that for me so if i cant unpack other mods and either learn more or copy textures then change the coding to what i want then i wont play this game anymore i bought this game from ea themselves as that first 3 fdays i could not get it myself my buddy said it was good so i dint copy it or download it i bought it when r2r came out i downloaded it so i can install it in my mod like the dc stuff and parrelell world and many others then when i got a chance i went and bought it as am atter of fact i just installed it lol to run recruits mod i didnt have to buy it but i want to support it i will also buy the next exp pack so if EA is listening i dont have to buy but i want to support a fantastic game so i BUY but i will not if i cant mod anymore




C0CKER

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#9 16 years ago
Originally posted by Oldschool derFuhrer, not everyone is like you, and some people just can't forget merciless creations! And you must be really unlucky, cause i haven't run into any cheaters yet. And then, what cheats are there for battlefield. Wallhack cheat is gone, there are no aimbots for battlefield, no speedhacks, no walking in air cheats, no cheats for infinate ammo, no instant kill cheats, no walking into walls cheat, no being able to shoot in water cheats, no changing class when still alive cheat, no god mode cheats, no shooting through wall cheats, etc. Look at CS, full of hackers, but nothing is done about it. Look at battlefield, a few minor cheats( and yes, they are minor, go play cs and you will agree with me), and EA and Dice go crazy about it, and say, "Hey, lets all go crazy and become lame smacktards and lets ruin the modding community!" Even RTCW had even worse cheats and hacks! But they have that lame punkbuster thing now, which I am happy EA is not going to use.

dont you see..the cheats are within the skins themselves!! People will make custom skins so that all the people are HOT PINK or some other neon color or something to make them stand out acroos the map. With eliminating skins, thus eleiminating cheaters. i have heard alos there is a cheat out that makes the cross hair follow the oposition when they run accross the screen.




Raptorrat

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#10 16 years ago

If EA goes through with Thisi, ( And I think it is the EA part of the deal, and not DICE.)

I might suggest a Boycot of the 1.4 patch, or even The new Xpack. At a certain time we might even decide not to play on EA-run servers.

But we have to do that as a communety, single actions do not work.