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conafam

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#1 15 years ago

Fellow fraggers,

I just ordered an new PC, due to arrive in two weeks. However, im concered about the graphics card Im getting with it. I am led to belivce its a new model from ATI, its a 256MB Radeon 9200SE. Im a bit of a noob when it comes to graphics cards but from what ive been reading, It sounds like my "new" card is pretty low down in the product name, ie Radeon 9700, 9900 are most recent versions and all of a sudden the new one is 9200SE?????. Does anyone out there have this card and how does it run? Is it HW T&L (bloddy better be!!!).I assume that 256MB is more than enough to run the game fine. The new PC specs are:

2600+ ATHALON 1024MB DDR RAM 160GB HD 256MB Radeon 9200SE Previously I was running Athalon 900Mhz with 512SD RAM and 32MB GForce 2 MMX and was getting 40 fps with graphics all cranked to the lowest. Looking forward to actually needing to unlock my max framerate...woo hoo!!! If anyone has ever read any reviews or knows someone who has this card could you let me know what the performance is like.

Cheers The Flying Scotsman




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#2 15 years ago

What brand of card is it? What manufacturer? I do believe it will handle the HW T&L, though I was not able to locate a 256meg version. All I found were 128meg versions. Near as I can tell it's a turned down version of the 9600, but I could be mistaken. It should run the game just fine though. Also it only supports DirectX 8.1. Again that shouldn't be a problem with games out today.

ATI Radeon 9200SE (200Mhz/348Mhz) GPU/Memory ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (275Mhz/550Mhz) GPU/Memory ATI Radeon 9600 (325/400MHz) GPU/Memory ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256meg (380/700MHz) GPU/Memory

Just some figures to go buy. ;) Seems they all pretty much have the same features. Other than the DirectX versions & clock speeds.




(SAW)SSg Deetox

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#3 15 years ago

I have a friend who owns a 9200 and its a fair bit slower than my other friends 9000 and my 8500. I did a search and came up with a bit of info on the 9200SE, seems its a low end budget version of the 9200.

"The 9200SE will be a toned down 9200 [RV280], with lower memory bandwidth of 64-bit (versus 128-bit for the 9200) and lower core clock speed of 200MHz (versus 250MHz)."

Doesn't look like that good of a card but i'm sure it will do a decent job.




DC2002

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#4 15 years ago

256MB Radeon 9200SE - i think the guy was getting a b-job while he told you that :lol: cuz i think its supposed to be 128mb (EDIT: WOW MY MISTAKE: I THINK ITS 64mb :S HE REALLY GOT A GOOD B-job!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: ) and not 256mb. i think only the 9800 pro 2 and 9600 pro are 256mb.

btw - i dont think there is a 9900 EDIT: did a little more research - the ati radeon 9900 pro is coming out in september and will include half life 2 when you buy it. (thats what i read)




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#5 15 years ago

OMG looks like the 9200SE is worse than i thought, i was just on a site where they were talking about it and looks like its an absolutley TERRIBLE card.

look at this benchmark comparing it to the 9200

http://www.ixbt.com/short/2k3-07/resut.gif

Its like 50% slower!! That puts it on about the same level as a GF2MX, no wonder it only costs a measly $50.

I'm sorry conafam but no way should you accept that card with your package, its a complete peice of crap.




conafam

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#6 15 years ago

Come on guys! You could at least lie to me to make me feel better! Well this isn't good news! :( I have checked and it is definitely a 256MB version. I saw it on print and on the website from where Im getting it. Have a look for yourselves http://www.thecomputerworld.co.uk/index.htm?http%3A//www.thecomputerworld.co.uk/packages.php%3Fid%3D7 it is the Time Ultimate XP2600+ S3809 model.

Hopefully with all the RAM im getting and with the processor BF should run fine. If anyone should have some GOOD NEWS for me, please, dinae hesitate.




DC2002

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#7 15 years ago

Graphics : 256Mb ATi Radeon 9200SE graphics

they can get sued for that - pure lie. i was doing some searching for myself and i found yours, its a 64mb. they really should get sued.




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#8 15 years ago

Been ripped off mate,

Here's a quote froma review site;

And now, let's look at ATi's new entry-level chip. The Radeon 9200 VPU (RV280) is the replacement part for the Radeon 9000 series. This chip only differs from its predecessor in its AGP 8x support and its higher clock speeds. The core is still based on the Radeon 8500 design with its four pixel pipelines, but, like the 9000, it only has one texturing unit per pipe, instead of the 8500's two.

Your performance wil be around that of the FX5200 - but less than the 5200 PRO. basically I consider the 5200 a poor performer, but at least it's DX9 compatible, which your isn't! The slowest Radeon you should go for is the 9600 - the FX5600 for Nvidia.

In future when you order a PC you tell them what vid card you want. If they can't customise your puter to suit you then buy it from somewhere else! The 9200 line of vid cards are the budget line for Radeon's, yet you have a Athlon 2600+, 1Gb DDR and a 160Gb HDD. What computer maker in their right mind would cripple nice system like that with a budget priced entry level vid card? Tell us all so we can avoid them like the plague. (sorry you did mention it, it's an off the shelf job aye?)

I have looked everywhere and can't find a 256Mb version, however I did find references to the card featureing either 64 or 128Mb ram, and seeing as it is an old chipset I would be very surprised if it supported 256Mb ram. (ok-update have checked on ATI's own website and the 9200 chipset supports a max of 128MB ram, and the 9200SE has a 64 bit memory bus compared to the other 9200 models with 128bit memory bus).

Now I'm not here to lie to ppl, most ppl here know that, that's why ppl ask me for help. When you buy a PC go out and have it custom built. Tell them what you want in it, it certainly won't cost much more (if any) and you will get exactly what you expect. There are always plenty of ppl to ask for help on the forums, should have asked us before you got your PC.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

:cya: :cya: :cya:

:smokin:




DC2002

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#9 15 years ago

say kid, have you ever heard of matrox graphic cards? cuz i can probably get the Matrox Parhelia™ 256MB (thats a link) for probably less than half of the price. can you tell me if its better or worse than either the gefx 5900 ultra 256mb or the radeon 9800 pro 256mb?




conafam

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#10 15 years ago

I called up the guys who were selling me this machine. I asked about the 256MB card and how I, and other people online could notfind 1 example of a 256MB Radeon 9200SE. I explained that I could not even find it on ATI's website. I was ASSURED that this was a 256MB card. The guy said that they were custom built for Time PC's. So here's how I see it...in a couple of weeks time ill recieve my nice new shiny machine through the door, and the first thing ill be checking when I boot it up is if the card is truly a 256MB card. If anything else appears, time to get on the dog and bone to my lawyer me thinks! Ill let you all know when I get it, just incase there are any curious cats out there, wondering where the hell such a card came from.

Watch this space.....