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DC2002

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#31 15 years ago

i still think its a ripoff :uhm:




apocalypse_kid

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#32 15 years ago
'ZeRo[UK']So its not just me this guy is a prick to then :uhoh: . Anyway i read somthing about the SE in a magazine. Or it could of been another card, anyway it said that it has the same chip as those found in the radeon 9500 and 9700 pro so..

Unfortunately not, it is actually based on the 8500 chipset, the RV280, but even worse it only has one texturing pipeline instead of 2 like the Radeon 8500. Oh woe,this is a BAAAD vid card, the only reason for it's existance is cause ATI needed something to match low end FX's like the 5200, but they changed the first number to 9 to make you think your were actually getting an up to date vid card instead of an obsolete card that only supports DX8.1 (not DX9 like the number sort of implies). The guys who are selling these puters are salesmen, they have no idea of the technology behind the gear they are selling, which is too bad for the casual purchaser (and even some non-casual purchasers I suppose who don't keep up with the news.)

Have fun all

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Breadstick360

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#33 15 years ago

Agreed kid, I stop buying Comp. I just get my own parts and build mine. I stop with buying prebuilt comps. about 3 years ago. This is a prime example why.




DC2002

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#34 15 years ago

thats how its done here in israel. every computer store has a build it urself option.




conafam

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#35 15 years ago

Finally I found a close version of my card. Belive it or not folks but it IS a 256MB Radeon 9200!!! have a gander....

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?style=album

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-131-217&refer=bizrate

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?ad=bz&pid=7408

http://hmcomputer.techgather.com/cgi-bin/shopzone30.cgi/st_prod.html?p_partnum=ZW44829017&p_vlt=J

Now I know it may not be the best performer, but at least I know the damm card exists! Ill let you all know what the performance is like once i get it up and running.




conafam

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#36 15 years ago

Guys, Ive just been to the offical Powercolor website and apperently the 9200 supports Direct X9????? :dance: :naughty: :bows: :rock:

Can this be so??????

http://www.powercolor.com.tw/page2/productlist.asp?id=1&sn=14&prodid=14




Breadstick360

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#37 15 years ago

Hmmm thats the first solid proof that it is made. Well good luck, and I hope it treats you right.




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#38 15 years ago

hmmm, i feel a nvidia vs ati war coming on...




apocalypse_kid

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#39 15 years ago

Hi all,

Here are the fulls specs of the 9200 Series direct from ATI's website.

System Requirements Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD® K6/Duron™/Athlon®/Athlon XP® or compatible with AGP 2X (3.3V), 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (2X/4X/8X). 64MB of system memory Installation software requires CD-ROM drive DVD playback requires DVD drive Graphics technology RADEON™9200SE, RADEON™ 9200, or RADEON™ 9200 PRO graphics technology Memory configuration 128MB of DDR memory RADEON™ 9200SE available with 64MB or 128MB DDR Operating system support Windows® XP Windows® 2000 Windows® Me Windows® 98/98SE Monitor support CRT monitor: 15-pin VGA connector RADEON™ 9200 PRO – DVI/VGA/Video-out RADEON™ 9200 – VGA/RCA/S-video RADEON™ 9200SE - VGA/RCA/S-video RADEON™ 9200SE - DVI/RCA/S-video Display support Register compatible with VGA Supports VESA PnP compatible displays BIOS compatible with VESA for super VGA DDC1/2b/2b+ monitor support VESA Display Power Management Support Separate horizontal and vertical synchronization at TTL levels Features CHARISMA ENGINE™ II Four parallel rendering pipelines process up to 1.1 billion pixels per second High performance 2nd generation hardware transform & lighting engine Advanced vertex shader support for the latest programmable effects SMARTSHADER™ technology

Full support for DirectX ® 8.1 programmable pixel and vertex shaders in hardware 1.4 pixel shaders support up to 22 instructions and up to 6 textures per rendering pass 1.1 vertex shaders support vertex programs up to 128 instructions Complete feature set also supported in OpenGL ® via extensions Programmable shaders provide enhanced 3D effects in over 100 existing and upcoming game titles

SMOOTHVISION™ Image quality enhancement features for Direct3D™ and OpenGL ® applications Programmable full-scene anti-aliasing supports 2 to 6 samples with user selectable performance and quality modes Advanced anisotropic filtering supports 2 to 16 samples for high quality texture rendering with minimal performance impact

HYPER Z™ II Lossless Z-Buffer Compression and Fast Z-Buffer Clear reduce memory bandwidth by up to 25% VIDEO FEATURES FULLSTREAM™ Hardware accelerated de-blocking of Internet video streams VIDEO IMMERSION™ II delivers industry-leading DVD playback Integrated MPEG-2 decode including iDCT and motion compensation for top quality DVD with lowest CPU usage Unique Adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing feature combines the best elements of the "bob" and "add-field" (weave) techniques YUV to RGB color space conversion Back-end scaler delivers top quality playback 4-tap horizontal and vertical filtering Upscaling and downscaling Filtered display of images up to 1920 pixels wide Hardware mirroring for flipping video images in video conferencing systems Supports 8-bit alpha blending and video keying for effective overlay of video and graphics

DISPLAY FEATURES Dual integrated display controllers to drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions and refresh rates HYDRAVISION™ software provides complete control over multi-display configurations with a user-friendly interface 400MHz Dual integrated DACs with 10-bit per channel palette Integrated DVI-compliant 165MHz TMDS transmitter Integrated TV-Out support up to 1024x768 resolution

GENERAL FEATURES Comprehensive 4X and 8X AGP support Windows® Logo Program compliant Optimized for Pentium ® 4 SSE2 and AMD Athlon™ 3Dnow! processor instructions Highly optimized 128-bit 2D engine with support for new Windows® XP GDI extensions Warranty 3-year limited warranty

While you have found similar cards conafam, you haven't found a 9200SE with 256MB DDR. Nowhere in these specs does it even MENTION DX9, but it does mention specifically full support for DX8.1. It probably supports SOME features of DX9, but doesn't have full support. Hmm. In fact on Powercolor's site (which I already posted BTW,) it mentions that it some supports SOME feature sets of DX9 - so don't expect miracles. So the 9200 with 256Mb exists, but still not the 9200SE,which as I mentioned has a 64bit memory ut compared to the full 128Bit bus of the regular 9200.

Keep us posted conafam.

Good luck

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#40 15 years ago

Ok I surely don't want to become part of any dispute, but wasnt PNY marketing a 256meg version of the FX 5600 ( non ultra ) while the Nvidia site was only showing them to be 128meg? I'm just saying that being that most of these card manufactures make thier own PCB's couldn't it be possible ( in theory ) to make a 256meg version?

If anything comes from all this. I hope it this..........................Always ( and I do mean always ) know exactly what you are getting before you click the buy button. There are way too many web sites doing reviews & such, not to know enough about what you're buying, to get ripped off. If you buy something & get ripped off, it's basically your own fault these days. There is just way too much information to be had.