why *ARE* some maps only available in conquest? -1 reply

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#1 15 years ago

I know that a lot of modders are focussed on multi-player, but what is it that specifically makes a map a conquest vs co-op map. I imagine it's just a tag in the map instructions, but I didn't post this in mods forum as my question is more philosophical. Why bother not making all the maps available in all modes? I see that single-player is different from co-op, but really co-op isn;t fundamentally different from conquest, just who your team-mates are.

Reason I ask is that I just finally got and installed EOD, and would like to try some of the maps in coop before going online.




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#2 15 years ago

fragbait_newboyI know that a lot of modders are focussed on multi-player, but what is it that specifically makes a map a conquest vs co-op map. I imagine it's just a tag in the map instructions, but I didn't post this in mods forum as my question is more philosophical. Why bother not making all the maps available in all modes? I see that single-player is different from co-op, but really co-op isn;t fundamentally different from conquest, just who your team-mates are.

Reason I ask is that I just finally got and installed EOD, and would like to try some of the maps in coop before going online.

i think it has to do with the ai, the only single player dc maps are the bf ones converted to dc, even then the ai is really stupid




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#3 15 years ago

How is the AI any different though? A bots a bot isn't it? Yes, they are stupid compared to live players, but isn't a map a map too?

Seems to me that you build a map, then assign it to each of the game play types. Battlegroup has all maps in all modes, why can't other mods? It almost seems elitist to me.




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#4 15 years ago

fragbait_newboyHow is the AI any different though? A bots a bot isn't it? Yes, they are stupid compared to live players, but isn't a map a map too?

Seems to me that you build a map, then assign it to each of the game play types. Battlegroup has all maps in all modes, why can't other mods? It almost seems elitist to me.

well, i guess i dont know, im not a modder




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#5 15 years ago

The map has to have certain files to have co-op fuctionality. They are .raw files and i have no idea how you edit them. They are 8 bit and they contain black and white(black is where they can't go, white they can). But then there are the .con files that you have to edit also.




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#6 15 years ago

Point well made. Still despite the fact i don't play coop, there isn't a readon not to make alot of them Coop supported.




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#7 15 years ago

I see co-op as not just training for the actual game, but also a lot of fun if you have a bunch of guys together.




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#8 15 years ago

really seems to be that the modders are somewhat elitist, they see conquest as the 'only' way to play, so don't care about the rest. they create the maps for the community as well as themselves though, so not sure why they ignore co-op so much. very disappointing really.




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#9 15 years ago

from what ww2dude said, it sound like a major hassle to make them




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#10 15 years ago
SpartanVIIfrom what ww2dude said, it sound like a major hassle to make them

it is a HUGE hassle, i have only seen like 3 costume maps that support coop.




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