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| Do You Think Any More Armies Will Be Added To The 40K Universe? |
|Start: 08-06-2008 14:43|
|Last: 08-24-2008 11:26|
|#1 - Posted by: Deutsch_Guard (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 14:52|
Not right now (we just had Daemons), but probably eventually. It's hard to say when though. For now, we'll have to make do with the new stuff (hopefully) released alongside the 5th edition codexes. I hear there'll be more types of Guardsmen, specifically ones with trenchcoats.
Or maybe DoW II will give some new units, if not races. I believe the Tau Orca dropship came from the game Fire Warrior....
So, that's my worthless opinion, which will no doubt be repeated and contradicted countless times over the next 130 comments or so. But I felt like telling people what I thought about new races anyway.
|#2 - Posted by: Blk_Stormwolf (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 14:59|
Hmm i voted yes because there wasnt a "I hope so" button
|#3 - Posted by: ponytaj (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 15:02|
I'd love to see a Squat rebirth. Little blokes with big guns and bigger axes.
|#4 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 15:08|
GW officially confirmed that there won't be any new races.
So (no offense) but this poll fails.
|#5 - Posted by: A_LONE_HOBO (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 17:59|
ok then no new RACES but there will definately be expansion on the existing ones . . . .
i mean GW is a brand and it has to sell stuff to the population to earn money. Who wants to buy stuff that hasnt been updated in several years?
They ahve to keep the attraction new so people will continue to buy more :P
look at the orks! they have just recieved a makeover and now all the new models are really expensive . . .before it was a fiver for a warbike now its 20 quid for 3 so prices have gone up.
i reckon we will see new models, new units, and probably more miniraces (like SM chapters and their separate rules)
|#6 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 18:07|
Witht the streamlining GW has gone through, I doubt there would be a "Craftworld Eldar" type book or project being released.
BTW, of course we will see new units and new models. Why do you think they update Codexes (besides the rules changes)?
|#7 - Sorry for double posting - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 18:09|
Who wants to buy stuff that hasnt been updated in several years?
Uh, DE players of course. :D
|#8 - Posted by: chaoslordx13 (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 21:17|
dark eldar arnt sold anywhere near me anymore, in fact the only way i know to get them is to order the, even sob are more popular than dark eldar,
and o the new race thing, i voted no because you can effectively make your own "mini race" ex: sm players can make ther own chapters, each can cotain there own sets of rules, also people mod there units to look cooler, ( i met somone that moded there sm army to be a preheresy deathguard army and all his modles were custom moded and they looked wicked sweet.)
another example is that i have an adeptus mechanicus army, complete with electro priests and everything, "the only place that im not allowed to use them are in official tournaments) I found an unofficial codex online and its really balanced.
so as long as the race has been named by GW use your imagination and you can have a mini race of your own.
|#9 - Posted by: Ifrit (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 21:44|
apart from nids we wont see anymore..... there just isnt enough units in the other armies, maybe there will be specialist armies like steel legion, loads of SM chapters with their own traits, eldar with different battle tactics for each craftworld, or even chaos with their specific gods hoping thousand sons, evil inferno bolts >: ) i just hope they put all the fluff into this one, cause i get to the stage where im playin and i think hmmm would be useful to have some death company, when the rest of my army is gettin base raped, just so i have some chance of surviving, even if its just making my demise longer. other than that i dont think we will see anything new : \ maybe in guard we will or nids if and when they turn up in an expansion.....
|#10 - Posted by: crisissuit3 (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 22:32|
maybe, i mean, anything can happen.
|#11 - Posted by: maxxta (Member) on 08-06-2008 at 23:40|
i hope they make another race that are like a mixture of Tau and Necrons (big as machines that actually fight for a reson other than killing) i wish we could add them to the game ourselves but i heared somewhere that it was illegal to add a non-warhammer 40'000 race to the game...
|#12 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 00:14|
"i wish we could add them to the game ourselves but i heared somewhere that it was illegal to add a non-warhammer 40'000 race to the game..."
If you are talking about TT you can do whatever the heck you want. Its called "house rules." There is no way they can do anything to you for using other models with theirs or anything else. You of course won't be able to use any non-warhammer 40k custom stuff in tournys but that doesn't stop you from using them with your friends if they are cool with it. The illegal part in this case is a "game rule illegal" not a "throw you in jail" illegal.
If you are talking about a mod for DoW you can still do whatever the heck you want. You just have to be able to mod it yourself though. As long as you don't go releasing it to the general public or some such then GWS won't know or care.
|#13 - What About The Lesser Xenos? - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 00:23|
has anyone else heard of the k'nib, hrud, and hyper violent barghesi? maybe GW shuold elaborate more on theese. the K'nib are spider people who are somehow festering,:rock: the hrud have gone from space skaven to mega long armed gribblies, and the hyper violent Barghesi are hyper violent.nuff said. and i haven't even scratched the surface.
|#14 - Posted by: maxxta (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 01:21|
TDATL = i mean for dow, coz ive been lookin into it for a while, i wanted to add the replicator race from stargate (if any1 watchs it) and since its been canceled i wanted to do somit awesome in rememberance of it! but some1 sed to me its wud be illegal for me to do such a thing! :(
|#15 - Popular - Posted by: Tmoulus (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 01:28|
Wh40k is popular so i'm sure they will add more races someday.
|#16 - Posted by: kwok88 (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 09:11|
there are millions of lifeforms mentioned in a variety of material but wether or not they will be made into a fully fledged race or not will be another matter. More likely they will become an allied unit to add in the existing races instead. Rather like Tau allies etc. I hope they don't add another race for the time being because they have a rich variety of armies already. What other type can there really be anyway? we covered humans, orks, horribble gribblies (tyranids), eldar, techno army, mechanical army! What else is there? slime army? ghost army? :p:p:p
|#17 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 10:45|
I agree with #4. This poll-Fail.
If GW was gonna release a new race, it really wouldn't matter much to DoW players unless Relic intended on making an expansion for said new race.
|#18 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 11:18|
"wud be illegal for me to do such a thing!"
No, It would be nothing at all if you didn't distribute it. Its an IP issue. GWS doesn't own the code on your machine. The code being modded for GWS IP of for replicators is the same level of "illegal." However, distributing that is a different matter. IP is a perception issue. They don't want you to make a mod and release it that mixes their IP because you are "challenging" their IP in that case. If they don't defend their IP then with enough changes you could claim the new mixed up mess as yours including all of the stuff that was originally theirs. This only applys if they need to defend it. If you keep the mod on your computer then their is no challenge and thus no problem.
Mods themselves are on some levels "illegal." This is contract based though not government enforced. There is a big difference. They can get you on breach of contract and other corporate stuff that can be nasty. Thats not to mention that their are hundreds of mods out that they (Relic/THQ, the people to whom mods may be considered illegal) haven't done anything about. It wouldn't make much of a case for them to single you out on the grounds of it being a mod.
The way you are using illegal I think that you are thinking its "illegal" like killing someone or stealing someones property. In the mod case its more like "Rick says not to mow his lawn then gives a nudge and a wink and lets lots of people mow his lawn." You aren't going to get into trouble for mowing his lawn. In the IP case its more like "Gunther says not to let him HEAR about how you ripped him off. Don't let him HEAR <bump, wink, eyebrown wiggle>"
Trust me the FBI isn't going to bash in your door and demand you hand over your computer because they think you have been mixing fiction IP in a game mod.
|#19 - Posted by: Silberwolf (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 13:32|
Voted Maybe because who knows what GW does as soon as they need money *g*
I Could imagine that they would add one of the Fantasy Armies to 40k. (Deamons are already there and im still hoping for a Lizardmen Army in 40k)
|#20 - Posted by: panzerputney (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 13:57|
I yhink they will have to add more races in.......I coulden just play with three races
|#21 - Posted by: Deutsch_Guard (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 14:33|
Didn't Zoats have something to do with Lizardmen? Only they're extinct (as far as I know)
|#22 - well yes! - Posted by: joeb (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 14:57|
sorry for being a trool but the 40k uni is olny going to expand and when they have got it 20 races they mite wite some out so on ... bring back
squats wiiki them lol srry XD
|#23 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 15:32|
IF GW were to release new races/armies, don't expect one in at least 20 years.
Think about it, Chaos Legion rules were removed, traits are being removed, and doctrines will be removed.
With this streamlining, I HIGHLY doubt that any new races/armies would show up.
|#24 - Posted by: Deutsch_Guard (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 16:22|
Squats are NOT coming back! Why will people never give up hope?
|#25 - Found another race that would work. - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 20:26|
there are these things called Tolathians, like living storm people. that is cool as and they are realy wierd looking, would make great models. their are tons of little xenos, go here to see how some dudes are making themhttp://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=57556.
|#26 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 20:59|
Sadly, they wont fit in with the fluff.
|#27 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-07-2008 at 23:38|
"Why will people never give up hope?"
Because that is the nature of hope. To hold on when there is no reason to, to believe when there is no chance, and to wait for the impossible. Because when you give up hope its an aweful feeling. Doubly so if what you were hoping for ends up happening later. Thus the saying "hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." However, hope is the reason any improvements are made in anything. If you couldn't hope that things could be better then you can't try and make it better.
That is also why that quote "hope is the first step on the road to disappointment" is perfect for the IoM of 40k. They have basically given up hope. Things can't get better. They were at their best when everything went straight to their worst. For things to get better is actually just the start of a path that will lead back to disappointment and destruction. Oddly enough, the most hopefull race in 40k is the Eldar. Dispite their shared situation with the IoM of "best leads to worst" they continue to try and hold on in a chance to fix their mistakes and move on. Then again maybe its more arogance than hope that drives them. I can see the it now "A giant interdimensional daemon that tore a whole in the fabric of the universe thinks it can slow us down?! HA! It doesn't know who its dealing with!"
|#28 - #26 they would fit in. - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 02:26|
they would fit cause GW created them. they would work it in somewhere. there could be a lesser xeno codex or sumthin:rock:.
|#29 - new race? - Posted by: extiusmaster (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 07:28|
i've heard rumoura about there being a new race. it's the xenos hunters.though they were supposed to come out next year, it was 2006 when i heard it :(
|#30 - Posted by: Grand_Master_Bean (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 09:37|
Xenoshunters aren't technically going to be a new race. It is highly likely that they will be a combination of the Daemonhunters and Witch Hunters codex
And yes, there will be a new race, just not for a long time
And for those saying things along the lines of "i reckon we will see new models, new units, and probably more miniraces"
well duh! Of course there will be new models units and chapters!! All of the codices get redone every so often, and always with new models and new units!!!
|#31 - #28 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 14:54|
That's the problem GW DIDN'T create them.
New armies-maybe, probably*
New races-highly unlikely*
*In 20 years.
|#32 - if #28 is talking about me, he is wrong. - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 17:57|
GW did create them. they were int the fluff somewhere. i cant remember were, but it was. And they must fit in somewhere, even if they just get squished by space marines. but i digress. The Hrud are still a major thing, but they were removed from the fluff. But they are are still their, and they may ,make a comeback.
|#33 - sorry for double post but title should say #31 - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 17:58|
i accidentalt said it was me
|#34 - Posted by: maxxta (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 20:01|
I say we all put our heads together and make a new AWESOME race that will fit in perfectly...
|#35 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 21:19|
Ah my mistake.
Still doubt they would make it into the main TT 40k though.
|#36 - i still like the Barghesi and will defend them till this site dies. - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 21:35|
call me stubborn, but anything unexplored is fascinating. go here http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51921&hl=barghesi
to see the awsomeness. and all others. if you can honestly say that theese arnet cool i will send you a virus. i will. really. no, really. STOP LAUGHING AT ME!!! AAAAAAAGHGHHHH SDSFYJSGKLBHKHBHGUHKUHBHHBKUty thxhhhx
|#37 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 22:52|
"6. Please do not advertise for other sites or forums here."
|#38 - double post - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-08-2008 at 22:59|
Wow, it seems like I totally misread your post.
I thought you said "go there or i will send you a virus"
Sorry about that mate.
|#39 - Posted by: 51Wonk (Member) on 08-09-2008 at 01:52|
I'd love to see them get some love.
|#40 - Dogs of War - Posted by: Furtim (Member) on 08-09-2008 at 05:20|
If GW ever do bring out a new race I think they should bring out a race like the warhammer Dogs of War, it could include rogue traders and things like that.
|#41 - #30 - Posted by: extiusmaster (Member) on 08-09-2008 at 07:23|
yeah your right, it'd most likely be based off of deamonhunters with new weapons and such. right now i can't really think why they would put in another army, what they could do is have the adeptus mechanicus or (probably not) custodes?
anyways, i dont think that a new race would fit it right about now, though it could since a new edition just came out :cool:
|#42 - Posted by: seiglegar (Member) on 08-09-2008 at 15:02|
Rumour at the moment says that squats are NEVER comeing back, but the current draft of the 5th edition guard codex makes it possible to recreate them.
i highly doubt any new armys will be added, but the current ones could be expanded and likly will. by this i mean more different 'racial' units for the tau (like the vespids) and more suppliments for existing armys (like the spacewolf, bloodangel and darkangel codex(s) in 3rd edition)
|#43 - New 40 Armies - Posted by: cjcogswell (Member) on 08-09-2008 at 20:29|
I heard on the official pipeline that they plan on adding Tyranids to Dawn Of War 2. The reason that they haven't before is that the D.O.W. A.I. program engine could not handle Nids with-out a program melt-down. This is to be corrected in D.O.W. 2.
|#44 - Posted by: cyclocius (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 01:16|
I think so, GW have lost control of their company now.
Come buy Apocalypse, buy a box of loads fo men for Â£150!
And they've turned all their metal mini's into plastic (because it was to expensive) to give the gamer more customisation.
So they'll keep churning out new armies adn minatures until they cna sort themselves out.
|#45 - Posted by: Ifrit (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 02:40|
its like that with forge world too. i mean those people they really made forgeworld wat it is today got the sack because they wanted to save money, and because of that the quality of the models they make has gone downhill there is some many mould malfunctions with them now i brought lods of stuff from them and had to remodel some bits of them. i think GW is goin the same way, they are making things out of plastic to reduces costs therefore to make more money but i think the metal models have more detail, they also arent replacing the original moulds of certain heroes, when they break thats it they wont make anymore of that model. : \ all just to save money, like they dont make enough >: (
|#46 - Wookies - Posted by: Aquahobo_123 (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 07:34|
they should add wookies to 40k it will be epic:beer:
|#47 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 09:49|
|#48 - Posted by: Aquahobo_123 (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 14:37|
why not :'(
|#49 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-10-2008 at 19:43|
Because it is a horrible idea.
40k =/= Star Wars
It's like the game Mortal Kombat vs DC.
Combining universes are bad ideas, that turn out bad too.
|#50 - wait...wut? - Posted by: NOD70 (Member) on 08-11-2008 at 10:01|
maxxta star gate was canseled?...since when man i have it on my tv and they evan have some new ep's out
as to the new race thing...i was kinda zoned out so i voted yes...didnt know wut it meant but now that im here i would say no...if anything they should make a game with holy terra under attack and you get to us the adaptis custodis (forgive my spelling) and/or the techpriests of mars hmm...OR...they could make a story line that lets us see what would have happened if horus didnt betray the emperor and that well...the emperor could still walk...eh? eh?:)
|#51 - Spaceballs: The Search For More Profits - Posted by: Dezaro (Member) on 08-11-2008 at 17:04|
I think the new army would be Spaceballs: The Search For More Profits.
Honestly there's already too many armies to try and balance out, and they are having enough trouble achieving that. I think that there's only one reason why they would add any more armies is purely for more money. With the way they are going about balancing the game they'll never get there.
|#52 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 08-12-2008 at 11:37|
Mortal Kombat has more blood in it, it's like putting Bruce Lee (MK) Against John Wayne (DC). Bruce Lee beat Norris too.
The only race I see that could make it in 40k at the moment would probably be either a new Chaos God, or a new form of Xeno.
|#53 - Posted by: Aquahobo_123 (Member) on 08-12-2008 at 11:40|
WOOKIES!!!!!! they like so intense they would be the best 40k race idk why they dont add them :(
|#54 - Posted by: kcaz (Member) on 08-12-2008 at 12:29|
Um, they dont add them because they dont own them AND they arent in the 40k universe. Duh.
|#55 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-12-2008 at 14:32|
Wookies WERE in 40k at some point. But then the Nids ate them.
|#56 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-12-2008 at 16:43|
Now they'll never appear. Good.
|#57 - Posted by: Lord_Sirius (Member) on 08-13-2008 at 03:27|
BeanTheKing currently many "lesser" chaos gods do exist (Malal, Melkirth, An'sl, Mo'rcck, and Phraz-Etar and a few more i think), however i very much doubt they will promote one of them into the big 4 and as for adding a new one i fear the day some unkown chaos god just comes in from nowhere and can start shouting at any of the current ones.....
|#58 - Hell yer - Posted by: BrotherHaru (Member) on 08-13-2008 at 03:42|
well i hope they do but i would like to see more mods for the army paint like have honer bages or sholdergrad that you can change just to make your army more to you.
and some new armys would be good that brings me to think are they going to make 100% new race we not seen in any of the warhammer?
|#59 - new race for DW 2 - Posted by: I_AM_FEAR619 (Member) on 08-13-2008 at 05:07|
LOOK AT THE BLOODY TRAILER IT DOSENT SHOW U THEM BUT IT IS THE NEW RACE WILL BE TYRANIDS (FTW) PLUS 'NIDS WILL OWN ALL RACES I PLAYED MOD AND I DID A 7 VRS 1 MATCH AND WE LOST AGAINST 'NIDS MAN THERE CRAZY ANYWAY LOOK AT TRAILER LATER
Tyranids FTW :rock::rock::rock:
|#60 - Random - Posted by: I_AM_FEAR619 (Member) on 08-13-2008 at 05:09|
and Eldar get owned
they couldnt fite there way outa a paper bag
there sneaky i hate them
anyway in trailer Eldar get owned
lol lol its funny banshees become spitroast lol:D:D:D
|#61 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-13-2008 at 14:07|
It would be nice to actually have a point and not just crap and a bunch of caps.
|#62 - Posted by: wraithlord900 (Member) on 08-14-2008 at 19:41|
When I become a noob I will make a race of circus clowns it will be hellaryus:p hahahahahahahahaha:D:)
|#63 - there is undeniably more races. - Posted by: alexwars1 (Member) on 08-14-2008 at 22:23|
there will almost certinatley more races going to be added. if 40k is going to be aroung for a longer time, more units cannot simply br piled onto the existing races. a new race provides a runoff valve for ideas
|#64 - Posted by: Aquahobo_123 (Member) on 08-15-2008 at 06:58|
yea i agree with #63
if they keep adding new units to the races it will become to much for that race beacuse everythink has a limit
so i do think they will add more
|#65 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-15-2008 at 15:17|
New races WILL be added.
Just don't expect one in atleast 20 years.
|#66 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-16-2008 at 01:30|
"Just don't expect one in atleast 20 years."
20 years? Do you grasp just how long that is as far as a business is concerned? What you are suggesting would be business suicide. It doesn't take long at all for a market to swing one way or another. It can happen over decades or it can happen almost overnight. 20 years without some very sizeable update (especially with their growing prices) would destroy GWS as it would any company. A company doesn't just need to keep its current base it also has to ensure that new people are added to the base in the long run. Any customer base, being human and all, has an annoying tendancy to die off after such a large amount of time. If you can't get people to replace these losses then you might as well just get ready to quit.
But, then again who knows. The pricing of their models seems like a rather dumb change as far as long term business goes so maybe they will do as you say. A better choice would have been to go with lower prices (before all the gas issues) and attempt to get more people hooked. People are far more likely to get into a hobby if its prices arn't so oppressive and as long as your product is quality they will come back. Then again that is the bandwagon trend these days "drain your customer base as fast as possible reguardless of any sort of longterm damages you are causing."
How much would it cost to get a 2000 point army and the rules for it? You are looking at easily $300. Thats not even touching on paints, time, gaming space, or rule books. Then factor in that you need at least one other army like this for the other player. That is a pretty heafty obstical to put in someones face as whats needed to get into a hobby. This is also ignoring that most people are going to want to do more than one army. They could easily cut the price in half and still make a killing. They would also have a stronger customer base and a much easier time attracting new customers. Compare this to say an X-box or PS2 and one game (which often comes with the system) you are looking at $150 for the ability to play your game to its fullest. Then if you factor in outside things such as gas. You have a serious problem on your hands. Gas places a huge strain on your customers spendable cash. Not only do they have to buy GWS's models they have to go somewhere to play against people with them. This makes GWS's product not only the most expensive starting investment but by far the most expensive to maintain outside of what GWS will be getting.
Bottom line is GWS not only needs to make new updates to the armys and races of the game on a regular basis (2-3 years) they also need to seriously drop their prices if they care about their company lasting very long. Even with the 360 and PS3 reaching on $500-600 + $60 games they are by far the better choice price wise.
|#67 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-16-2008 at 15:47|
I am aware of rules updates. I meant adding new RACES.
|#68 - #66 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-16-2008 at 15:49|
Why do I get the feeling that you're just complaining about GW's prices?
|#69 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-17-2008 at 00:15|
"Why do I get the feeling that you're just complaining about GW's prices?"
FIrst paragraph had nothing to do with prices. As for the rest it would be because I am. This is the point where I wonder if you actually read what I wrote. My whole post was basically trying to explain WHY their prices are a bad choice for THEM.
GWS stands to make insane profit on each sale of its little pieces of plastic. However, the prices are such that it discurages any sort of impulse buy. This is especially true when you look at the fact that the rule books are seperate and $20-50 a piece. There is a fine balance a price needs to reach between profit and the likelyhood that it will hurt volume sales. I can sell one car for a million dollers or I can sell 100 cars for 12k. Which is better? Volume sales (so long as you make some profit on each transaction) are almost always the better option. You secure a larger customer base and it is more likely to grow. Their starter kit cost $40. The SM side in that box doesn't even get a full squad and no HQ option at all. Compaire this to a TCH where the starter kit costs $15-25 and you have everything you need to play a game to its fullest.
I know why companys these days don't worry about their customer base. They don't because the CEOs are only rewarded for the immediate rewards of their actions. It is a very very bad system. The system it encourages is almost exactly like a farmer fleecing his sheep and then killing them and selling them for the meat. Killing the proverbial golden goose. You raise your profits for today and the cost of tomorrow.
I also know that considering there is a large differene in the shipping costs between TCG materials and the large bulky boxes that W40k materials come in. There are two sides to this. 1.) that doesn't explain why they were so expensive before the prices of gas shot through the roof 2.) online buys through them should reflect this in the shipping and handling and the prices for the actual item should be far cheaper than store prices where the shipping is included.
There is no excuse for lazy business practices. Which is what all companys are doing these days."How much money can I squeeze out now with the least effort" thinking processes instead of "how can I maximize my profits and the security of the company." Companys should be structured like farms and not like strip mining operations because your "reasource" (the customer and its spendable income) is both renewable and finite. I can apreciate a company that knows what its doing and how to sell its product reguardless of if it inconveniences me. I however, cringe when I see companys waste their potential by killing their host like a bad parasite.
|#70 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 08-17-2008 at 00:26|
"I am aware of rules updates. I meant adding new RACES."
Rules updates are fine for people who are already into their product. It however does nothing to attract new people. Blizzard is making StarCraft 2 is it not? They arn't content to just keep updating the "rules" of StarCraft and reselling a 10 year old game are they? New material is something people from the outside of the W40k world can understand. Rule changes mean nothing to someone new to the game because they likely won't know about them. If they learn about the rule changes its acutally more likely to scare them off. This has two reasons 1.) you make your product seem unstable or shifting. 2.) Sense rule books are by no means inexpensive this would be another recuring expense.
While to someone already in the game rule updates mean more balance. To someone outside with no knowlage of the game it sounds more like "the rules are broken and we have to keep fixing them." New rules implys there is something wrong with the current one. New armys is just more content.
|#71 - ya - Posted by: Alothian (Member) on 08-17-2008 at 08:32|
gamesworkshop will obviously add another race there goin bust they brought out a new rue book for more money they wil bring out a new race for money too i hope it's good and that they bring it out in dawn of war!!! :p
|#72 - Posted by: Znuflex (Member) on 08-20-2008 at 10:57|
They are not going bust, they only did a new rule book for more money, to be even RICHER XD, Ps there probably will be a new race, cause when you think of it there has been speculation about the "old ones" creating races, maybe some of them will emerge. And who knows if they don't make a new game, probs warhammer 30k xD, with all 20 legions and stuff (this is just me and its only because i want them to, but they wont obviously)
|#73 - Posted by: chosen40k (Member) on 08-20-2008 at 15:41|
Note that adding a completely new race means that they need to rewrite the fluff.
|#74 - Posted by: chaoslordx13 (Member) on 08-21-2008 at 11:46|
They already stated that there will be no more new races years ago.
the only thing to hope for are new space marine chapters with unique abilities,
or possible adeptus mechanicus, and maybe the awaking of the c'tans.
|#75 - Posted by: chaoslordx13 (Member) on 08-21-2008 at 11:48|
sorry for the double post,
the new rule book SIMPLIFIES alot of the rules, which will make more people (idiots?)
look at it.
|#76 - Posted by: Ramunathra (Member) on 08-21-2008 at 23:29|
Am I the only one that wants to see a Skaven army in DoW? And if anyone mentions the Hrud I'm going to choke on bile immediately previous to posting a blistering retort. I just recently got Warhammer Mark of Chaos and I LOVED the Skaven. How can I be the only one?
|#77 - Posted by: mr_freeze_apologises (Member) on 08-22-2008 at 02:09|
Hello, I am here to apologise for all the spamming I have been doing. I am sorry if I have insulted anyone and I was wondering if you could find it in your heart to let me back on to the site. I promise that I shall stick to the rules always and will never bother another living soul. hank you very much for reading this,
|#78 - Posted by: Znuflex (Member) on 08-22-2008 at 03:11|
Well i remember them saying there would be no new race and then they "made" the necrons, so really they might just say that to surprise us xD
|#79 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 08-22-2008 at 17:22|
Things take forever to change in this site.
|#80 - Posted by: Grand_Master_Bean (Member) on 08-24-2008 at 04:47|
Mr freeze you claim to be here to apologize for your spamming, and so far i've seen that apology posts in 3 threads.... A bit of irony there don't you think. And no, i still don't forgive you
Guys, GW didn't change from metal to plastic becuase it costs too much to make metal models.... Making plastic moulds is more expensive.
Rewriting the entire fluff isn't a major issue, since if you read the new rulebook the timeline only goes up to the 13th Black Crusade. Think about how they did Necrons and Tau - one race that had laid dormant for eons, and one that was a very young race. It was extremely easy to fit those two in. Also, the Chaos Daemons isn't really a new race since it is just Chaos, which was already in the fluff (duh).
However, if there is to be a new race it will be difficult to make one that is original and fits in well enough with the 40k universe. The most likely thing we will see is add-ons to existing races i.e. Lost and the Damned (chaos), possibly a Harlequin or Exodite codex, and you can bet money that each of the major space marine chapters will get their own codex (so far there are Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Black Templars, and obviously the vanilla SM codex. They could easily do others).
Squats will never return, according to one of GWs big men (i can't remember who; it was quite a while ago)
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