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| So its a 1v1, what race do you use? |
|Space Marines||33.1% (1367)|
|Imperial Guard||13.7% (568)|
|Sisters Of Battle||3.3% (139)|
|Dark Eldar||3.3% (137)|
|Start: 06-27-2008 07:23|
|Last: 07-08-2008 05:34|
|#1 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 11:14|
Guess who's top again...
Anyway, for me it's Dark Eldar FTW... their attack power is unparallel.
|#2 - Tau - Posted by: Firewarrior1705 (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 11:59|
kick ass firepower
|#3 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 12:19|
We get a decent poll the Space Marines win. Again. Well, I suppose considering the intelligence of this country you can hardly blame people for just going the easy way.
For me it's Sisters. Awesome new race that's right between SM/IG. Plus the Celestians are awesome.
|#4 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 13:29|
... and what country would that be?
|#5 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 13:59|
The United States of Hypocrisy.
|#6 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 16:14|
Lol nuff said
|#7 - Posted by: Eidolon (Member) on 06-27-2008 at 16:43|
dark eldar are full of lose! it's all about eldar!!
|#8 - Posted by: Hrtbrk1 (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 02:31|
Space marines again?!
Why do we have polls like these again?
Anyway for me its has to be Sisters simply because they are ridicously overpowered in SS so they are more User friendly.
|#9 - Posted by: Vendak (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 03:35|
I'm actually surprised Necrons aren't up there, but it depends, if I want to win then Necrons, if its a fun game IG all the way
|#10 - Posted by: Colonists (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 07:11|
either SM or IG.....no other race.....oh, perhaps chaos too .ha
to me, I like SM voices and thats one of the reason i like them
|#11 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 08:53|
#10 SM - At least you gave a reason
|#12 - Posted by: IETS567 (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 10:57|
Chaos because of their offensive punch and zerk rush and their style is unmatched and unique
|#13 - Posted by: Devastator170 (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 11:31|
I like space marines because I play them on table top as well as in dow
|#14 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 11:32|
Sisters? Overpowered? In what way, please explain. I'm eager to listen to someone and their reasons as to why Sisters are overpowered. Their basic unit is weaker than an SM scout. Barely stronger than an IG. The only overpowered unit they might have is the Repentias. That's about it, other than that every army in the game is balanced next to it.
|#15 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 15:21|
Back when I played online alot in DoW and WA I played SM and Chaos in about equal amounts. Orks and IG tied for 2nd. Eldar never were my thing. I like CC and artillery too much for Eldar. Their CC units seemed rather fragile and their artillery was limited to the prism cannon which wasn't artillery as much as it was a big cannon like on the bane blade. Oh how I loved back in 1.3 when I could deploy whirlwinds in pairs of 3 at t2. Best Eldar Turret camp buster ever!
"for just going the easy way" Easy? The Space Marines are not that powerfull in 1v1 and can boarder on underpowered (at least from WA and DC balance experence.) The most powerfull 1v1 tactic they had was scout rush and it was nerfed long ago and was beatable back then anyway. In Team games however they can get very very powerfull though as when they mass their high HP units they become rather nasty. The same could be said of the Necrons who lived up to their name of n00bcrons in DC.
SM are the only Human side to play as besides IG. I would play as IG more but they are very unsatisfying in DoW. I never feel as though I have very many guard units and their HWT takes up too much squad cap. yes its powerfull but I dislike loseing a guard squad for a unit that only works for turtling or a creeping advance. Their Command Squad suffers from the same issue. I know they arn't a CC focused race but I feel as though the game is trying to force me to camp in my buildings and use HWT when I play as them. I do play as IG in DoWPro about 75% of the time though as I like the way they play much better there.
I would play as Orks more if their pathfinding was better and their numbers a little higher. Every race in the game can field more units than orks can and considering they are the mob swarm CC race they really really need high numbers and better squad pathfinding to work like they should.
Chaos got real sucky (IMO) when they stripped their heavy weapons and took away their Lascannons. Also their music was better back in original DoW. Once again I play them more in DoWpro than I would in the regular game.
Even in DoWpro I rarely touch Eldar.
Crons and Tau I've never cared for and nothing has changed that yet.
|#16 - haha - Posted by: Zealot2021 (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 16:40|
Orks man, all the way. bm sluggs and shootas to cap points, inf grots make a LS near enemy base, constant harrass, easy spam, pretty much the best race for a 1v1 imo.
plus its hilarious to see teched out... oh i dont know, marineS? get swamped by 40 sluggas + BM where alll their fancy smanchy rhino and hb's dont do anything. and gray knights? nobs.
- Gork and Mork FTW -
|#17 - Posted by: Zealot2021 (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 16:44|
not like i do any 1v1's, but it sounds plausible
Im more of a 4v4 RTNN-er
|#18 - Posted by: 2_Dume_2_Die (Member) on 06-29-2008 at 10:41|
The space marines are ALWAYS gonna win EVERY poll they are in until some one smarts up and bans them from the poll's.
I say Tau because i like there hammerhead tanks and stealth suit teams.
|#19 - Posted by: LankyDread (Member) on 06-29-2008 at 12:04|
I dont have soulstrom, but in most RTSs, one race will be stronger or weaker against different opponents. I dont play the DoW enough to know which races are strong against other races, but i think it would depend on the match up.
|#20 - Posted by: Crunchjaw (Member) on 06-29-2008 at 17:21|
IG man cuz the massive numbers and the awsome tanks will quickly overun ur positions:rock:
|#21 - Space Marines - Posted by: Edteen (Member) on 06-29-2008 at 18:46|
Space Marines ROXES!! :rock::rock:
|#22 - Posted by: general0cobra (Member) on 06-29-2008 at 20:15|
i want to know why weapons arent standardized
bolter str 4
bolt pistol str 4
stormbolter str 4
gauss flayer str 4
yet ingame they vary a lot
|#23 - to #11 - Posted by: Colonists (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 05:21|
thx # 11,
well....cause i really like the voices lol
i dun feel the SM in the game are really THAT strong.....cause if u lose the SM squads u will pretty much be in a bad shape to win the battle....and the SMs are kinda easy to die IMO..
-I play SM most of the time, so dun get me wrong. Its my favourite race but i really hate their weakness(as i have stated above) too lol
|#24 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 06:06|
The simplest answer is this is not table top.
A more complicated answer is that table top rules, which are designed for turn based gameplay, will not translate correctly into a real time game for a variety of reasons
First off, the strength of the weapon was not its damage in Table Top. All weapons in TT did the same amount of damage. They did 1 damage. What was more important was the AP value and most importanly the BS of the weapons wielder. Troops in TT had between 1 and 3 "hit points" in general. Taking cover, armor saves, and misses into account it could take several turns to kill a +3 armor save unit or it could take one lucky hit with a lasgun.
Likewise a bolter had a slim chance of harming vehicals. However, this does not translate well into a RTS styled game. A 30 minute shootout in TT if you played it thorugh in real time would last all of 30 seconds if that long.
You could simulate the BS and WS of units and standardise the rest of the damages and values as well. This is what alot of TT mods do. This often turns the game into an extended range slaughter. You can't even see your opponent or react before you are guned down. Its not very supportive of "fun" gameplay as most people would consider it.
The problem with simulating TT with a direct "damage" translation boils down to reaction time. In TT there are "pauses" which are the turns and dice throws. They allow you to think, To decide what to shoot at next, but most importantly they allow you time to take in your loses. You have time to realise "such and such squad is done for" and make plans to deal with that. In an RTS with TT values you have no such luxury. Your units simply arn't there any more and the "under attack" warning only tells you that something you have is dead before the message finishes.
|#25 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 07:55|
Space Marines are obviously superior.
FOR THE EMPEROR.
|#26 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 08:06|
"We get a decent poll the Space Marines win. Again. Well, I suppose considering the intelligence of this country you can hardly blame people for just going the easy way."
You can't blame the Space Marines for being good. There's 2 sides to the fanboys of any race. The ones that understand them (tactics, weapons, fluff,etc) and the ones who don't. "SPACEMarines r s0 roxxor, dey keel u1!!11!"
I understand its frustrating to some people that Space Marines win the polls most of the time, you just can't generalize the whole fan base of Space Marines, for there are those that truly know the Adeptus Astartes, like me :)
And btw, I totally agree with you about the US.
|#27 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 08:07|
Yeah thats totally logical, Banning a race from the polls.
Stop crying about how your panzy Tau friends never win.
|#28 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 08:13|
Now for my reasoning of the choices.
At first, the Space Marines tie with the Dark Eldar. Hit and Run tactics are extremely helpful to cripple a foe in a 1v1 since there is no other enemy to interfere. Since the Dark Eldar specialise in this, they'll destroy their opponent.
Space Marines not only have a powerful attack, but a pretty good defense, unlike the dark eldar, the Space Marines can go for direct attacks and win. If you prefer to turrtle, missile launchers with heavy bolter turrets are an extremely good defense against most veichles and most infantry units.
|#29 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 13:06|
Wow... 4 posts...
|#30 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 15:19|
I know right. Like post spamming ftl..
|#31 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 17:14|
I rather not take up the whole page, besides its not spam.
|#32 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 17:23|
You took up more space in this manner because you have the header for your name repeated 4 times instead of once and you still typed quite a bit. It is spam. Especaily if you ment to do it.
|#33 - Posted by: EuphoricAcid (Member) on 06-30-2008 at 17:54|
I honestly have to give my respect to the spacemarines for being such a powerful force... but myself, I prefer either the tau or eldar, despite the eldar's obvious slow beginning.
|#34 - Posted by: XaXasTHoC (Member) on 07-01-2008 at 03:08|
I'll go for Chaos,with their awesome rushing tactics,unmatched melee units and decent vehicles,as well as they have one of the fastest builders in the game together with DE.
Respect to Space Marines!!!!
|#35 - Posted by: Serefinn (Member) on 07-01-2008 at 03:23|
besides its not spam
4 posts in a row, all about the same topic, most of it was unnecessary (especially #27... nice...) - if that's not spam i don't know what is.
|#36 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 07-01-2008 at 07:34|
They're just different topics, thats all, its not spam, im not spam any links am i? im not spamming words over and over again am i? No, so quit your whinning.
|#37 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 07-01-2008 at 12:54|
Technically it's not spam. Technically it's spam. Everything has two sides so here are the sides.
The non-spamming side- He just made four posts so he wouldn't have to make a single large post in the style of TDATL (No offense mate)
The pro-spamming side- He could have just made four different paragraphs in a single post which is what he should have done to follow the rules.
So there's the facts. Now get over it and go back to posting about the poll and not some pointless argument.
|#38 - Posted by: Cpl_Death (Member) on 07-01-2008 at 16:34|
Bean is right you guys should just get back to the point of the poll, instead of starting a fight.
|#39 - Getting back on topic... - Posted by: Justin0005 (Member) on 07-03-2008 at 08:38|
This sounds like a "who is your favorite army" poll
Well for me I would go with space marines even though I am a IG fan
To me the SM are one of the best attacking armies and can still have a good defence
|#40 - Posted by: Deutsch_Guard (Member) on 07-04-2008 at 01:45|
For me it has to be Chaos, which I don't actually like - I prefer Guard
If you give the Chaos Marines infiltration and then create just loads of troops, the other player should be stuffed - he/she will never have enough detector units...
Hopefully Relic have removed this ability for SoulStorm (I decided not to buy it, and judging from how the new races are doing in the poll, it wasn't a bad choice)
|#41 - Posted by: Stalinism (Member) on 07-06-2008 at 05:06|
Me i choose sister for 1v1...Why you ask ? the resource distrubiton is unfair. you can 3 fully reiginforced battle sister ssquads for almost nothing and with flamers you can quickly stop your opponents gaining points while you tech up to seraphim...ect :)
But in general or other maps i will use SM due to the ability to adjust on the fly balanced between high attacking and high defence , means if your suddenly pushed onto the back foot you will hold and can push again instead of re-desiging your whole army.
|#42 - Posted by: chaoslordx13 (Member) on 07-06-2008 at 10:31|
it depends on what type of tactic i like to play,
this isnt related to this very much but...
in the orgiginal dow's manual it says the ork vehicles breakdown, yet they never broke down in the original nr any of the other... i was just wondering if they just took extra damage or something.
|#43 - Posted by: chaoslordx13 (Member) on 07-06-2008 at 10:32|
I know how to play sm and i have them on the tt but the only reason sm win every pole is because there are far more sm fans out there,
sm are games workshops workhorse, they bring in the most money.
(if u read them by the fluff of all the races thought they are the bad guys (exceptions are necs and tyranids))
|#44 - YEA sm man - Posted by: NOD70 (Member) on 07-06-2008 at 17:45|
i would say space marines would win cause...well they just need to build 3 HQ's than spam with turrets and while the enamy is peroccupied with the turrets get a skull probe or scout team in there base and tely/orbitaly drop your guys in OB the place and than just keep poring out the orbital DN's till they just dust in the wind :thumbsup:
|#45 - Posted by: TDATL (Member) on 07-07-2008 at 07:09|
in a 1v1?!?
|#46 - Posted by: 2_Dume_2_Die (Member) on 07-07-2008 at 07:15|
I know thats not gonna happen but i just had to say it anyway, but i do wish all the fan boys would stop mindlessly voting for space marines
|#47 - Posted by: BeanTheKing (Member) on 07-07-2008 at 09:12|
Spamming sisters is beyond sad. No offense, but a single sister is the equivalent to about an IG or SM scout. A single Marine kills two-three sisters. Trust me, me and my friend do 1v1 alot. At least three or four every day with each other. His SM always beat my sisters. Even with flamers, sisters barely have any health. And why would you get three squads? Most I ever use is two, if I even get a second. Usually I just get a single squad and tech to CELESTIANS. Why would anyone tech to Seraphims?
|#48 - Err.. - Posted by: Debilator (Member) on 07-07-2008 at 20:50|
Id have to go with IG, would go with Chaos and the spam but Ive got too less troops to pick from in T1 - T2 and CRAZY costs.
|#49 - Posted by: yep_yep_yep (Member) on 07-08-2008 at 04:02|
I'm a little confused. Is it a 1v1 online or a 1v1 Skirmish? Cos against The AI I would go the Orks cos I've never lost to the comp with them, even on the hardest setting. If online I would probably go as Chaos (cos their my fave race) but I don't even know if you can get 1v1 online cos I've never done it.
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