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| Would you have preferred regular Security Teams to the Hazard Team? |
|No, the Hazard Team were a brilliant idea.||35% (76)|
|Yes, I like the idea of regular Security Officers better.||29.9% (65)|
|No, the Hazard Team were better equipped for the Delta Quadrant.||23% (50)|
|I'm not sure...||11% (24)|
|Start: 06-21-2008 15:48|
|Last: 06-29-2008 08:45|
|#1 - Posted by: TiberiousKirk (Member) on 06-21-2008 at 15:55|
Hazard Team idea was logical. You need a team that can handle anything that comes their way. Regular security would have broken down under the pressure.
I see security guarding the ship, while the HZT is almost a Millitary squad.
|#2 - Posted by: oberlerchner123 (Member) on 06-21-2008 at 16:58|
No, the Hazard Team were better equipped for the Delta Quadrant.
That sounds like Stemmons. :)
Normal security would have already died in the first mission (Just not if they were main characters :D )
As #1 said they are a Millitary squad, and security is there to protect the ship and to make sure that nobody makes the floor dirty. :D
|#3 - Posted by: fraggles (Member) on 06-21-2008 at 19:36|
I really don't think the Hazard Team is practical in actual Star Trek. It makes a good combat video game (excluding its slipshod sequel), but has no real place in Star Trek. If it really existed, we would have at least seen it once in Voyager.
It's just another name for the marine corps if you think about it the way I do, which ticks me off a bit about roleplaying. People try to add hazard teams to RPs. It's like adding a marine corps to an exploration vessel. Do they need a party trained for brute force on their hands? All Starfleet officers are trained to fight if and when necessary.
|#4 - Posted by: adm_tyler (Member) on 06-22-2008 at 03:47|
If Security had Hazard Training, they could handle both when required. Except Klingons, their ALL trained like Hazard Marines.
|#5 - #3 - Posted by: adm_tyler (Member) on 06-22-2008 at 03:49|
Forgot to say, Starfleet knows that the universe is a dangerous place and force will be required at times. They would have special marines added to a ships complement for certain missions.
|#6 - @5 - Posted by: fraggles (Member) on 06-22-2008 at 08:30|
I understand that, but on roleplays about diplomacy or first contact or something, I've seen a marine or a hazard team member with his rifle out on the bridge or at the conference table just watching things. I really think people should take other roles unless a marine is necessary.
|#7 - @6 - Posted by: Capt332 (Member) on 06-23-2008 at 09:01|
I agree, the Hazard Team is not technically canon to the star trek series and it annoys me how people just wander around with rifles in their hands for no reason. Also, in my opinion, the hazard team is just a bunch of security, engineers and science staff that have just been given a rifle, a phaser and an imod and given a little extra training.
@1: Regular security staff could perform the Hazard Teams duties and they wouldn't have broken down, otherwise they wouldnt be security now would they? Think about it, we saw 2 security people walk into an assimilated sickbay...to me that suggests that they have nerves of steel lol.
The Hazard Team is also not a military squad - they weren't a fleet wide team, they were only deployed on Voyager and the Enterprise. If it was a military squad then there would be a lot more hazard teams out there. Also regular security have proven to be just as effective as marines in dealing with situations, even regular officers have been shown to be as effective - The Siege of AR-558 as an example. They wern't marines and thus proves that normal officers can be just as effective as the hazard team.
@4: Starfleet does know that the universe is a dangerous place indeed, that is why they have security. They wouldn't have marines on a starship because Starfleet believes in self defence only. Marines would give a militaristic feel to the Federation which contradicts their policy of exploration and peace. If there was a problem with intruders or a situation which required troops to be deployed, normal officers and security would be able to handle it, Marines wouldn't be necissary. Also since when have you seen a batallion of marines on a starship? Come to think of it, when have you seen marines in a Star Trek series other than Enterprise? Most of the time, they are just regular officers and security.
In my opinion, the Hazard Team was good as a game but impractical and not canon with regards to the Series itself. Marines just contradict starfleet's policy of self defence.
|#8 - Posted by: oberlerchner123 (Member) on 06-23-2008 at 12:33|
If it was a military squad then there would be a lot more hazard teams out there.
Didn't Picard at the end of EF2 say, that he would make sure that there are going to be Hazard Teams on other Fed-Ships.
|#9 - Posted by: rattler20200 (Member) on 06-23-2008 at 12:37|
I see the Hazard Team as StarFleet's version of a SWAT team, not as widespread as Security, but with better training and access to the BIG guns. Hazard Teams probably would be assigned to ships on long range exploration missions and larger classes such as the Sovereign class starships.
|#10 - @8 and 9 - Posted by: Capt332 (Member) on 06-24-2008 at 13:29|
@8: I don't know, i skipped it...too long :P
@9: I agree with how you think that Hazard Teams would be assigned to certain ships only, such as Tactical Vessels or Deep Space Exploration vessels but regular officers have had access to the BOG guns as you put it, for example Worf in Insurrection - Worf can be seen using a Tetryon Pulse Launcher.
|#11 - Posted by: fraggles (Member) on 06-28-2008 at 10:07|
Well there was use for large weapons like so in Insurrection since they were defending a planet without a Starship and they were outnumbered by the Son'a. I still think that regular security officers are completely fine and should only be allowed BFGs in situations like that.
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