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| In order to survive the war, which would you choose for your position ? |
|Start: 01-09-2009 04:14|
|Last: 01-16-2009 06:52|
|#1 - Posted by: Samboring (Member) on 01-09-2009 at 08:18|
Medic is dangerous depending on what I say below about rifleman, sniper and scout are ridiculously dangerous in combat, and infantry can either be front line or reserve.
Assuming you mean frontline, in action... got to be a regular infantryman. Scouts are taking that extra risk, and snipers usually have to become somewhat more exposed to make an impact. Infantry function as a group and so statistically you are somewhat safer, usually. Medics on the frontline get killed at the same rate, or more, depending on the circumstances. Behind the lines you are safer, but personally I don't want to put people's guts back in. I'd probably shoot myself.
In war however, no one is truly safe. War is the reflex of those who don't care about human lives, forces that don't serve human happiness or social progress but the personal quest for profit and priviledge. It was under capitalism or if you go back before this word is as valid mercantilism that war became so regular, total and with such sickening professional and mass involvement. Even the war of the deranged Kings and Pharaohs pales in comparison with the wars of capitalism.
|#2 - Posted by: bbejones (Member) on 01-09-2009 at 12:46|
I would be a medic. That way, I would be safe in a tent working on taking that bullet out of Charlie's heart, rather than recieving it, or exposing myself to fire it, or accidentally stepping on a mine while scouting an area.
|#3 - Posted by: Bojo (Member) on 01-09-2009 at 18:42|
I always thought WWII sniper would be kind of heroic, but I would be a Corpsmen now.
|#4 - Posted by: Xenophon38 (Member) on 01-10-2009 at 05:57|
If I wanted to survive, instead of being a sniper/scout like I was, I would be on a ground crew in the Air Force. They put their officers into aircraft and sent them into combat.
Go Sir go!!!
|#5 - Posted by: Armdude (Member) on 01-10-2009 at 21:28|
Nice speech there samboring, way to go :thumbsup:
And i have to agree, snipers always have to have someone covering their flanks otherwise if spotted, you wouldnt have much of a chance to defend yourself if you were attacked from a flank or rear.
Scouts have to be fast, silent and have a sharp eye for the enemy. If not they wont have a fighting chance unless escorted by a group. So better to just use some binoculars at a far distance if a scout.
Medics are either at a field hospital or in a trench responding to calls of dying men. Your to focused on healing your fellow soldiers who half the time dont even make it, and you are not in thw battle, you are unaware of whats going around a bit.
Infantry are going to be in a large group of other infantry men who are watching eachother's backs and will be somewhat prepared to die and kill, so wont get scared and run off crying then getting shot. They are fast and get the job done the way its supposed to be done, which saves lives and weakens the enemy.
So if you are asking me, riflemen all the way. You will survive long enough to see the end of the war. :)
|#6 - Posted by: Xenophon38 (Member) on 01-11-2009 at 06:41|
Clarification on scouts: They tend to enter dangerous territory in very small groups light infantry commando style. What protects them is their ability to use mortars, artillery, and close air support to cover escapes and enhance attacks when discovered until they get to an extraction point or friendly line. I prefer extraction, friendly fire from trigger happy infantry units make reentering your own lines more dangerous then the enemy sometimes.
|#7 - Posted by: bbejones (Member) on 01-15-2009 at 16:56|
Armdude, you said: "Infantry are going to be in a large group of other infantry men who are watching eachother's backs and will be somewhat prepared to die and kill, so wont get scared and run off crying then getting shot. They are fast and get the job done the way its supposed to be done, which saves lives and weakens the enemy."
But that's wrong. Medics save more lives than riflemen, for example: Charlie, shooting at the germans, killed a german sniper, but the sniper shot 3 of his men. Without Charlie, the sniper would have injured lots more men, but Charlie might have been a medic, tending to the people injured by the sniper, instead. Therefore, medic is safer as you do not get sniped like Charlie.
|#8 - Posted by: Samboring (Member) on 01-16-2009 at 05:54|
@7, I don't understand what your trying to say. "Medics save more lives" is pretty obvious. It doesn't have anything to do with the medic being safe if he is up front. Medics are a huge target in war time because like officers they often wear insignia and secondly because they expose themselves to aid others. They die, at the front, at a greater clip.
as for the rest of you, 50% has chosen sniper, the most dangerous position there is perhaps beside scout. I assume this is because your immature and think something along the lines of "I'll just shoot anyone who wants to shoot at me." Sad news girls is that in most wars the ratio of casualties is usually close to 1 to1, meaning statistically, whatever your position, your as likely to die each day as to kill one person.
There is no rambo in real life. Receivers of the MOH are usually dead, and never do they kill a company a la Jimmy Paterson.
As for "modern war" aka occupation, of course the inequalities of warfare in that situation protect soliders as a whole more, but by type, which is the issue, you have an ever greater assertion of difference. snipers are exposing themselves to direct fire, and usually if you look they are on top of buildings, mostly US soliders don't have to do this, they just call in air strike or operate from armored carriers.
Scouts are the ones who get blown to bits by IEDs and get ambushed. They are most of the casualties in these occupations.
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