Weekly Poll Results - Of the 10 battles, which is the most defining moment in WW

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Of the 10 battles, which is the most defining moment in WW II ?

Operation Overlord 32.5% (83)

Defense/Battle of Stalingrad 22.7% (58)

Battle of the Bulge 9% (23)

Operation Market Garden 8.2% (21)

Battle of Britain 7% (18)

France 1940 - Germans defeat the French. 5.8% (15)

Battle of Moscow 1941 5.4% (14)

Midway 4.3% (11)

El Alamein 3.1% (8)

Battle of Kursk 1.5% (4)

Total: 255
Start: 02-06-2009 05:45
Last: 02-13-2009 12:37

 #1 - Posted by: Armdude (Member) on 02-06-2009 at 08:17
Are you serious????? If we didnt invade we would probably all be under nazi dictatorhip right now!!!! Operation overlord was basicaly the begining of us winning the war!!! :rock::rock::rock:

 #2 - Posted by: ElMariachi045 (Member) on 02-06-2009 at 10:27
Sorry folks but without Soviet victory at Stalingrad, we'd likely never have been able to invade western Europe. The Western allies were overwhelmingly dependent upon Soviet attrition to divert vast German armor and infantry resources away from the beachheads, and later to keep them occupied during the advances across France and Germany. That being said, the failure of the Luftwaffe to complete the destruction of the RAF (and that lies squarely with Hitler and Goering) condemned Germany to a two-front war and provided America with the vital staging areas of England one she entered the war. This, of course, in no way is meant to detract from the crucial importance of Overlord.

 #3 - @2 - Posted by: computernerd (Staff) on 02-06-2009 at 10:43
It's true :)

 #4 - Posted by: STORMobc (Member) on 02-06-2009 at 10:55
Operation Market Garden very crusial,,when it flops it was over with the allies and ofcourse i live in Nijmegen,,in the middle of Operation Market Garden

 #5 - Posted by: bbejones (Member) on 02-06-2009 at 12:41
Overlord. It defines the sacrifices required to win a war.

 #6 - Posted by: Enders33 (Member) on 02-07-2009 at 04:58
Stalingrad, because, when the germans lost at stalingrad, it was the beginning of the retreat of the germans, without stalingrad, Operation overlord wouldent even had happened.

 #7 - Posted by: Samboring (Member) on 02-07-2009 at 12:24
Stalingrad, the war was already over by the time the Americans finally assaulted the Atlantic wall. As a gamble, the Americans delayed the opening of a western front in an attempt to let the Germans do more damage to the Soviet Union, instead opting for a useless campaign in North Africa. However, this petty attempt failed and the Soviet Union continued to be a block to American interests in the region for a further 50 years. The final attempt at foiling the Soviets, the atomic "demonstration" that massacred two cities of people after the Japanese had already begun negotiating, had to be carefully woven into American mythology after the real reason was made ridiculous by the hasty development of Soviet bombs.

 #8 - Posted by: Bojo (Member) on 02-07-2009 at 17:31
Stalingrad and Leningrad. These battles held the Germans off allowing Stalin to regroup his army. This lead to the Russian Offensive which made America and Britain really step it up because they did not want communism to gain more control over Europe. Operation Overlord would have been ziltch without the Russian Civilians who died defending their homeland.

 #9 - Posted by: Bojo (Member) on 02-07-2009 at 17:34
Of course there are two campaigns listed Europe and pacific. If you're talking pacific it would have to be midway, mostly because it's the only battle from the pacific listed.

 #10 - Posted by: ElMariachi045 (Member) on 02-08-2009 at 06:17
And Midway was where America turned the tide against the Japanese Navy; her first real victory, and proof the the Navy air corps could handle Japanese planes and pilots. Unlike America, the Japanese could scarcely afford to replace the planes, ships (especially aircraft carriers) and pilots lost at Midway and each subsequent engagement.

 #11 - Posted by: Armdude (Member) on 02-08-2009 at 07:13
I agree with you bojo on midway being the most signifcant in the pacific. But what do you mean by "because it's the only battle from the pacific listed." its not the only battle that was won by americans in the pacific. and i seriously doubt that it is the only listed.

 #12 - Posted by: ElMariachi045 (Member) on 02-08-2009 at 16:30
Only Pacific theater battle listed as a poll choice.

 #13 - Posted by: Green_Beret (Member) on 02-10-2009 at 06:29
Battle of Britain of course... If Hitler would have bombed the RAF airfields a little longer, then the brits lose the war... Then the americans couldn't invade France... And the russians would gain control over Europe. Defense of Stalingrad was also a defining battle. But, when the allies invaded Normandy it was almost sure that they will win the war.

 #14 - Posted by: Karl_Wernicke (Member) on 02-11-2009 at 15:23
Stalingrad and Leningrad, sure, but how come nobody mentions Moscow? That was like the first time the Wehrmacht was stopped by an enemy army, after over 2 years of non-stop victories! Must have been a hell of a blow for the German morale... They didn't manage to invade England either of course, but that's more due to the width of the English Channel than to the strength of the English army. If the Germans could just march right from Dunkirk to Dover, England would not have lasted long. I don't mean to pull down the heroic defense of the RAF.

 #15 - Posted by: PKM (Staff) on 02-11-2009 at 20:24
[quote]They didn't manage to invade England either of course, but that's more due to [u]the width[/u] of the English Channel than to the strength of the English army.[/quote] wow .

 #16 - Posted by: Bojo (Member) on 02-11-2009 at 21:39
Hitler could see England from his house for god's sake.

 #17 - Posted by: Karl_Wernicke (Member) on 02-12-2009 at 06:05
Smallest width: 21 miles (34 km) in the Strait Of Dover. Behold, PKM, behold. Actually it's not that impressive :P

 #18 - Posted by: PKM (Staff) on 02-12-2009 at 12:58
[quote]Smallest width: 21 miles (34 km) in the Strait Of Dover.[/quote] and yet somehow every armed force in the world with a navy has traveled further for battle . but not the germans right ? hitler had an unnatural fear of water or the horizon and england staved off an invasion by simply moving the coast back an extra mile everytime they saw any large group of german soldiers on the french beaches . "ach, halder it is too much...all that water.'' ''ja mein fuhrer, an ze englishmen have boats .''

 #19 - Posted by: Karl_Wernicke (Member) on 02-12-2009 at 19:15
Moving the coast back an extra mile, you mean withdrawing their troops and coastal defenses?

 #20 - Posted by: PKM (Staff) on 02-13-2009 at 04:58
[quote]Moving the coast back an extra mile, you mean withdrawing their troops and coastal defenses?[/quote] no sir, i was being very sarcastic . i ment england picked up and moved their entire coastline back a mile .

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